Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 12:40:08 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2921456 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:52:23 -0500 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id q.45.2b59d1a (4328) for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:52:15 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <45.2b59d1a.2d2d933f@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:52:15 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Hobbs and timekeeping X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1073494334" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 370 -------------------------------1073494334 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/7/2004 10:01:52 AM Central Standard Time, 5zq@cox.= net=20 writes:
I hate to keep beat= ing a dead=20 horse
Bill,
 
It's winter, with unusable time on one's hands what else is there to=20 beat?
 
I have, not unusually, taken a different approach than the FAA. I'm=20 experimental anyway.
 
Flight times for the purpose of Pilot logbook entries are from Master=20 Switch on to Master Switch off, if a flight occurs. There are two reasons:
 
1. Once the sw is on I am the PIC, responsible for the expensive equipm= ent=20 and precious people present.
 
2.  This is pretty close to what the insurance company considers a= =20 change in the "state" of the aircraft.
 
GPS "trip" times and speeds are useful for bragging since it only count= s=20 when grounds speeds are in excess of 30 Kts with a 600 Kt upper limit. = I=20 wonder what to do if I have to face a 160 Kt headwind?
 
Engine time (Tach time, >1500 rpm) is useful for=20 engine/propeller/accessory milestones - oil change, vacuum filter, etc. = ;It=20 is recorded when these activities occur.
 
Airframe time (Hobbs, power to the main bus) is useful for the panoply=20= of=20 general wear and tear, including instrumentation, wiring checks, gear cyclin= g,=20 etc. This number is recorded, along with Tach time, as a historical marker w= hen=20 I am acting in the capacity of manufacturer, modifier and/or=20 repairman. 
 
I do keep track of "cycles" as a predictive wear measure for tires, bra= kes,=20 odds on upcoming bounced landing, etc.
 
I used cumulative wall clock time to record building events in my=20 photo builder's log.  Also, cumulative pounds of sandpaper=20 consumed.
 
I use cumulative years to measure wear and tear on my person.
 
My day event timer, mounted on my wrist and accurate to the second, tel= ls=20 me it is time to go to the airport. 
 
Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Sky2high@aol.com
II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL=20 (KARR)

There are three kinds of people in the world; Those that can=20 count, and those that can't count.
-------------------------------1073494334 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/7/2004 10:01:52 AM Central Standard Time, 5zq@cox.net writes: I hate to keep beating a dead horse Bill, It's winter, with unusable time on one's hands what else is there to beat? I have, not unusually, taken a different approach than the FAA. I'm experimental anyway. Flight times for the purpose of Pilot logbook entries are from Master Switch on to Master Switch off, if a flight occurs. There are two reasons: 1. Once the sw is on I am the PIC, responsible for the expensive equipment and precious people present. 2. This is pretty close to what the insurance company considers a change in the "state" of the aircraft. GPS "trip" times and speeds are useful for bragging since it only counts when grounds speeds are in excess of 30 Kts with a 600 Kt upper limit. I wonder what to do if I have to face a 160 Kt headwind? Engine time (Tach time, >1500 rpm) is useful for engine/propeller/accessory milestones - oil change, vacuum filter, etc. It is recorded when these activities occur. Airframe time (Hobbs, power to the main bus) is useful for the panoply of general wear and tear, including instrumentation, wiring checks, gear cycling, etc. This number is recorded, along with Tach time, as a historical marker when I am acting in the capacity of manufacturer, modifier and/or repairman. I do keep track of "cycles" as a predictive wear measure for tires, brakes, odds on upcoming bounced landing, etc. I used cumulative wall clock time to record building events in my photo builder's log. Also, cumulative pounds of sandpaper consumed. I use cumulative years to measure wear and tear on my person. My day event timer, mounted on my wrist and accurate to the second, tells me it is time to go to the airport. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Sky2high@aol.com II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR) There are three kinds of people in the world; Those that can count, and those that can't count. -------------------------------1073494334--