Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 22:12:11 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail.vineyard.net ([204.17.195.90] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2920459 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:59:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vineyard.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F30791587 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.vineyard.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (king1.vineyard.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92332-10 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from direct (fsy17.vineyard.net [66.101.65.17]) by mail.vineyard.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C376C91A1F for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:59:36 -0500 (EST) X-Original-Message-ID: <008701c3d4cb$0c92c220$11416542@direct> From: "Ted Stanley" X-Original-To: "Mail List Lancair" Subject: Re: [LML] Oil sump drains on IO-550-N X-Original-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:04:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS at Vineyard.NET I've read with some interest the discussion of the extension tube for the oil drain valve. Rich Schrameck makes a good point. Below is a small collection of Aviation Maintenance Alerts which apply to this subject. Mind you I'm not saying "don't do it", but rather consider carefully the possible consequence of your intended modification. Things are not always as simple as they may appear. Ted Stanley - A&P-IA Cessna; Model 177RG; Quick Oil Drain Valve; P/N S1951-4T Excessive inflight oil loss was traced to a dripping quick drain valve. When the valve was operated, in an attempt to reseat and close, the valve came apart. The sleeve at the bottom of the valve separated from the body, releasing the spring closing pressure. Drain tube extension may be causing extra load on the valve with engine vibration. Total aircraft time - 2, 031 hours. Cessna; Single-Engine; Engine Oil Quick Drain Valves Engine oil quick drain valves have separated, letting engine oil drain from the sump. Examination of failed valves indicated that the majority failed due to vibration-induced loads. One report states that oil pressure was lost and the engine seized. The submitter recommends the valve be inspected for looseness and wear at each oil change. Oil Drain Valve, Piper Model PA-28R-200, Arrow 200 During accident investigation, it was revealed the engine had seized due to oil starvation. An unapproved, engine oil, quickdraintype valve had been installed. When the nose gear was retracted, it contracted the valve and opened it, draining the engine oil in flight. Piper Service Letter 910 and Airworthiness Directive 81-11-02 pertain to this subject. Unapproved drain valves are still being installed. Piper Model PA-28R-200, R-201 and RT-201 Arrow, Engine Oil Drain Valve Despite Airworthiness Directive 81-11-02 and Piper Service Bulletin Number 910 (December 29, 1980) regarding the installation of engine oil quick dram valves, use of incorrect drain valves on Piper PA-28R-200 (Arrow II), PA-28R-201 (Arrow HI), and PA-28/RT-201 (Arrow IV) airplanes through 1981 models is still evidenced. The only off quick drain valve approved for these models is Piper P/N 492-172V. If an unapproved oil quick drain valve is installed, it may come in contact with and be actuated by the nose landing gear linkage during the gear retraction cycle, resulting in depletion of the oil supply and complete loss of engine power. On November 3, 1988, such an occurrence at Anaheim, California, resulted in a fatal accident involving a PA-28R-200. A PA-28R-201 was involved in a similar occurrence, with serious injuries, in April 1989. Both occurrences were the subject of Service Difficulty Reports (control dates 12/15/88 and 05/24/89 - ATA code 7250). Additionally, several other accidents and incidents have occurred in recent years after the oil drain plugs on these Piper airplanes separated during flight. The drain plugs had not been safety-wired. Pictenpol The second owner of this aircraft experienced engine oil loss and engine failure. An emergency landing was made, and there was substantial damage to the aircraft. An investigation revealed that an engine oil system drain extension, installed by the original builder, had broken allowing all of the oil to escape. (Refer to the following illustration.) The oil drain extension had been fabricated from copper tubing, and it was intended to facilitate draining the engine oil without removing of the lower engine cowling. The oil drain extension was broken adjacent to the adapter on the bottom of the oil sump. This extension was not a part of the original aircraft plans, and the extension had been devised by the builder. Buyers of amateur aircraft should inspect them closely for adherence to the plans or the kit manufacturer's data. Part total time - 120 hours.