Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:49:56 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [65.54.244.203] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2889628 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:16:15 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:04:58 -0800 Received: from 68.122.181.66 by bay1-dav68.bay1.hotmail.com with DAV; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:04:58 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.122.181.66] X-Originating-Email: [n320g@hotmail.com] X-Sender: n320g@hotmail.com From: "N320GG" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Flying Cost per hour? X-Original-Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:04:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Original-Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2003 00:04:58.0830 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9A056E0:01C3C1D5] Stu, I have just spent some time thinking about that and developed a very simple spreadsheet to get some ideas. I have been flying about 100 hours per year so I used that as a baseline, I also pegged fuel at $2.40 per gallon and fixed maintenance at $2000 per year. I own my hangar, but rent the footprint that it sits on, I charged the cost of the hangar at 8% either interest or deprecation, I did the same for the original cost of the airplane. My total annual cost per hour came out at $138, or $.77 per mile (assuming an average of 180 miles per hour). I then removed the interest cost for the hangar and the airplane and remaining cost came out at $59 per hour and $.46 per mile. The best way to lower these cost in my humble opinion is to fly more hours per year! I welcome comments on better ways to look at this. Oh and by the way I don't share these numbers with non-pilots. I would be happy to share my spread sheet with anyone interested, just email me direct, n320g@hotmail.com. and as Scott Krueger said : "Neither number adds in $90 Hamburgers, tie down fees, motel rooms, lousy dinners, car rentals, race fees, vinyl race numbers, oxygen as needed, nationwide phone service, sun lotion, EAA and AOPA fees, any unknown costs (see foot note), et cetera, et cetera........ " Gary Melton N320GG 400 hours and just finishing my annual getting ready for 2004. > Posted for "Stu Seffern" : > What do you all charge yourselves per hour (honestly) for flying your > airplanes these days? > Stu Seffern > www.LantzairFlyers.com