Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 22:37:05 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <2luv2fly@cox.net> Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net ([68.1.17.241] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.3) with ESMTP id 2565297 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 02 Sep 2003 21:37:39 -0400 Received: from 308h101 ([68.106.93.123]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.04 201-253-122-130-104-20030726) with SMTP id <20030903013739.FGWZ29613.lakemtao04.cox.net@308h101> for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:37:39 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <01c501c371bb$c19b2860$7b5d6a44@hr.cox.net> From: "Janie & Ed Smith" <2luv2fly@cox.net> X-Original-To: "Lancair List" Subject: Slow Build Door X-Original-Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:36:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01C2_01C3719A.3A5ECEE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C2_01C3719A.3A5ECEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tuesday Evening 9/2/03 Scott, I assume you are talking about a IV-P or IV door - correct? The door is not as hard as some make out - the second one is always = easier! The first door I built took about 3 months from start to = finish - paint, pressure testing, etc (was a rebuild from an explosive = decompression and subsequent window blow out). My second door took only = about 100 man hours to assemble - not finished yet, but I estimate about = another 200 hours to fit all of the hardware (handles, latches and = lock). For the 100 hours of work, I have an assembled door, stiffener = (with latch cutouts) and window assembly. The door frame is installed = in the top half of the fuselage, hinge pads are in place and fitted The = tricky part will be adjusting the latches so the handles work smoothly. No joggle? Are you telling me that when you lay the skin up on the = fuselage that there is no joggle to fit to? Maybe we aren't talking = about the same thing, but both airplanes I have worked on (s/n 53 & s/n = 439) have had the joggle to fit to. The door frame just simply butts up = against the inside of the fuselage around the door opening, but the door = skin and stiffener have to be fitted to the joggle. As the manual = states, the door frame is fitted to the stiffener using the 1/2" spacer = blocks - then it is bolted into place on the fuselage. I would be glad to take any pictures of my door construction if it would = help. You may also contact me off line at 2luv2fly@cox.net to keep = from taking up LML space if you like. Daytime phone is 757-641-2387 = (Chesapeake, VA). Regards, Ed smith ------=_NextPart_000_01C2_01C3719A.3A5ECEE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tuesday Evening
9/2/03
 
Scott,
 
I assume you are talking about a IV-P or IV door -=20 correct?
 
The door is not as hard as some make out - the = second one is=20 always easier! <grin>  The first door I built took about 3 = months=20 from start to finish - paint, pressure testing, etc (was a rebuild from = an=20 explosive decompression and subsequent window blow out).  My second = door=20 took only about 100 man hours to assemble - not finished yet, but I = estimate=20 about another 200 hours to fit all of the hardware (handles, latches and = lock).  For the 100 hours of work, I have an assembled door, = stiffener=20 (with latch cutouts) and window assembly.  The door frame is = installed=20 in the top half of the fuselage, hinge pads are in place and = fitted  The=20 tricky part will be adjusting the latches so the handles work=20 smoothly.
 
No joggle?  Are you telling me that when you = lay the skin=20 up on the fuselage that there is no joggle to fit to?  Maybe we = aren't=20 talking about the same thing, but both airplanes I have worked on (s/n = 53 &=20 s/n 439) have had the joggle to fit to.  The door frame just simply = butts=20 up against the inside of the fuselage around the door opening, but the = door skin=20 and stiffener have to be fitted to the joggle.  As the manual = states, the=20 door frame is fitted to the stiffener using the 1/2" spacer blocks - = then it is=20 bolted into place on the fuselage.
 
I would be glad to take any pictures of my door = construction if it would help.  You may also contact me off=20 line at 2luv2fly@cox.net  to=20 keep from taking up LML space if you like.  Daytime phone is = 757-641-2387=20 (Chesapeake, VA).
 
Regards,
 
Ed smith

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