Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:15:37 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.84] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1) with ESMTP id 2503590 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:25:30 -0400 Received: from sdn-ap-003watacop0052.dialsprint.net ([63.187.208.52] helo=f3g6s4) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19g8Bz-0004Lc-00 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:25:27 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <005e01c352e3$35192500$34d0bb3f@f3g6s4> Reply-To: "Dan Schaefer" From: "Dan Schaefer" X-Original-To: "Lancair list" Subject: Re: fuel tank vents X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:30:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Regarding Christopher Zavatson's alternate tank vents, it's a darn good idea! I've done the same thing (main vents tee'd into check valves) but for an entirely different reason. I posted this a while back but here it is again in a nut shell. During a test flight, I was transferring fuel from the left wing to the header. Luckily, the light was just right and it allowed me to noticed that the left wing skin was showing a slight negative deformation, enough for the rib outlines to be seen in the glancing light. I had never seen this before so I quit pumping fuel and got on the ground, pronto. I knew it was a plugged fuel vent but nothing was visible on a ground inspection until I ran a piece of safety wire into the vent. Turned out that a wasp of some kind had taken up residence about a half inch into the vent tube, completely blocking it with mud and completely out of sight. If I'd have continued pumping fuel out of that wing, I have no idea whether the pump could have overcome the structural integrity of the skin or whether it (the pump) would have stalled before damage had occurred. Regardless, I had no intention of finding out so I added the check valves. To guard the check valve's inlet, I wrapped a couple of layers of cheese cloth over the inlet and fastened it with a loop of safety wire. No pressure recovery from the valve inlet as they're inside the wheel wells (for the wings and behind the panel for the header) but no collapsing wing or header tank due to ice or bugs, either. Incidentally, if I have to leave the airplane outside for a while, like on a trip, I now stick some real fluffy pipe cleaners into the vents to discourage the local bug population from hitching a ride in my fuel vents. The ends that stick out are colored red so I don't miss them during pre-flight (though if I should, the check valves will keep me out of trouble). Dan Schaefer