Return-Path: Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.65]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:33:32 -0500 Received: from Fredmoreno@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id kWIUa18758 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:35:07 -0500 (EST) From: Fredmoreno@aol.com Message-ID: <8259e2bd.36e80cdb@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:35:07 EST To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: Acetone, MC and bubbles and oil cooler doors X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Jerry Grimmonpre got it right about the bubbles coming up the following morning. Took me a while to figure it out as well. I thought it was night gremlins. I put down a nice BID strip, no bubbles, clean my tools, go to bed, check in the morning, and bubbles! When you clean with acetone or MC, two things happen. First, as Jerry indicates, some gets wicked into the pin holes or into the core via in holes. It does not evaporate quickly. Second, when the surface solvent does evaporate, it cools the local area. Then you cover it all with fiberglas, and then the area warms a bit as the epoxy exotherms and the area returns to room temperature, and voila! the solvent vapor pressure rises and pushes out a bubble. In the case of bonding on top of core, the air in the core is enough to push out bubbles if there is much of a temperature change. Solution: as Jerry said: warm the area gently with your heat gun immediately prior to applying the fiberglas (especially when working above core), apply fiberglass and as the area cools it will suck a bit or resin in instead of pushing air or solvent vapor out. For acetone users: be aware that the acetone vapor is heavier than air, and if the air in your shop is still, you could be collecting a flammable mixture around foot level. If it finds an ignition source and cooks off, it will ruin your whole day as well as your projec.t USE LOTS OF VENTILATION WHEN USING ACETONE. What you smell is not necessarily what is going on around you feet. Furthermore, you smeller stops working with continuous exposure, so you can be fat dumb and happy until the mixture lights off. Be careful. Jim- on the oil cooler doors: you are right: call them drag reduction doors only. On W.W.II installation, the doors were actually cowl flaps that were closed to accelerate the flow when exiting to get some additional momentum and decrease drag a bit more. ON a Lancair, the ultimate would be to duct the oil cooler air flow back out of the cowl through a nozzle with an adjustable outlet to further reduce the drag. You might actually get a knot or two more! The only exception I can think of for the oil cooler doors is operation in very cold areas in which the oil can congeal in the oil cooler, dramatically reduce oil flow, and when the vernatherm opens, there is insufficient flow in the cooler to carry away the heat. I expect multigrade oils have largely eliminated this problem, but since you fly in Minnesota in the winter, it could happen to you. Close the door to keep the cooler warm and the oil flowing. Fred