Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 09:45:12 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.8.50.187] (HELO mta5.adelphia.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b7) with ESMTP id 2405004 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:19:11 -0400 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by mta5.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with SMTP id <20030606121910.WEK1551.mta5.adelphia.net@worldwinds> for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:19:10 -0400 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: LOP X-Original-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 05:19:15 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 <> There is a germ of truth in the above statement, but in the big picture, yes there is free oxygen in a lean exhaust and unburned fuel in a rich exhaust. Right at stoichiometric there is a combination of CO and NOX (oxides of nitrogen) so as you go slightly rich of stoic there will likely be no totally unburned fuel. It will consist of a fair amount of CO, H2O and some free HC - and a small amount of free oxygen. Just on the lean side the CO will, as George said, go essentially to zero and there will be more NOX, but there will still be some free oxygen present. But we're not talking about within a percent or two of stoic, but some distance away. The question that has existed over the years is whether the free oxygen will attack (oxidize) exposed high temperature metal. I think the evidence shows that with modern exhaust valve materials it doesn't. There are lots of high-output engines that routinely run LOP. All diesels, for example. Large natural gas engines run very high manifold pressures and LOP. And don't forget the R3350's. Gary Casey