Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #19049
From: Tom Hall <tomhall@starband.net>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Wx Deviations
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 17:13:11 -0400
To: <lml>
I would like to further agree with the previous remarks. ATC can be extremely helpful and frequently is, but YOU are the PIC. The advice to say "unable" is very good.
 
In a radar seminar that I attended several years ago, we were told the same and given the advice to suggest that if deviation as requested was not possible to offer 360's at present location. While noboby (pilot or controller) wants to do this, it gives them an alternative. I have used this on various occasions and usually immediately get my desired deviation. Even if you don't, you are not risking life and limb.
 
Another approach is to cancel IFR if at all feasible. (it should be if level 5 storms are anywhere near you) You would need to descend below FL 180, but the mid levels are usually not the place to be around big storms. Smart controllers would rather have you in the system and communicating rather than have to route traffic around you with no idea where you may be going.
 
I would say that nearly every controller in ATL, MEM , and JAX understand what you are facing and will do their utmost to not only give you the route you think best, but frequently will give you invaluable advice on possible routing around convective activity. I have frequently found this aid to be more helpful than that received from inexperienced FlightWatch personnel. Bottomline is: you are the pilot and you decide what is safe and appropriate for your flight. You are there, they are not. As said previously, say "unable" and if necessary do whatever manevering you deed necessary. Worry about consequences when safe on the ground.
 
Tom Hall
N725PT
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