Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 08:13:10 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from vineyard.net ([204.17.195.90] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b1) with ESMTP id 2083010 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 08:05:33 -0500 Received: from direct (fsy12.vineyard.net [66.101.65.12]) by vineyard.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ECE2C91848 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 08:05:31 -0500 (EST) X-Original-Message-ID: <006101c2f075$23c13660$0c416542@direct> From: "Ted Stanley" X-Original-To: "Mail List Lancair" Subject: RE: [LML] ATP Pilots Worse than Student .. X-Original-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 07:51:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Interesting statistic but there are several factors to consider: Having an ATP doesn't mean a pilot is current and/or proficient flying in a given environment. This is true of any pilot. Someone who is skilled as an Alaskan bush pilot would be lost in IFR in the NYC metro area on a busy day AND vice versa. The same thing applies to pilots used to flying in the mountains vs. ones flying in the flatlands. It also applies to weather, flying in areas where snow and ice are prevalent has different considerations from being in a area where temperatures are 100F. The same reasoning applies to type of aircraft. Light jets, piston twins, and tail draggers all fly differently. The first thing that came to my mind when I saw this stat is all the light to medium jets (typically flow by ATPs)that have gone off the ends of runways. I suspect this is due in part to the proliferation of the "fractionals" and users demanding to go into smaller airports which typically are more challenging than larger ones. Also bear in mind that having an ATP doesn't automatically make one and airline or even a jet pilot. Ted Stanley - ATP-IA