Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:24:42 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.8.50.184] (HELO mta4.adelphia.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 2051414 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:35:01 -0500 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by mta4.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with SMTP id <20030313143501.YCGB19568.mta4.adelphia.net@worldwinds> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:35:01 -0500 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: over square X-Original-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:31:29 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 <> I'm sure George will weigh in on this, but just as a data point, I flew a C-T182RG (parallel-valve, 8.5 compression, carbureted) for a while and the POH showed 2100 and 25 inches as a "legal" 75% power cruising condition. When running at that setting ROP because of the carburetor the engine would occasionally emit a barely audible "knock" for maybe 6 consecutive firings of one cylinder. This would happen every few minutes, almost regularly. Sort of like a burp and just enough to get my attention. I asked a Lycoming guy and he proposed that it was "abnormal combustion" caused by carbon buildup burning away. I'll buy that it was carbon buildup, but I think it was actual detonation. The inlet air temp of this engine would typically run over 150F at altitude, way higher than a naturally aspirated engine. I can't image that in the IO-360 running LOP that 25/2100 could cause a problem. I don't see how that could be a normal operating point, though as you would have to be cruising below 5,000 ft to be there. Or is it a turbo Arrow with the Continental engine? Either way my answer would be the same - 2100, 25 inches or even higher, LOP, quiet, lower temperatures, what more could one want? Gary Casey