Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 10:47:30 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.8.50.187] (HELO mta5.adelphia.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 2040667 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 09:32:27 -0500 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by mta5.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.25 201-253-122-126-125-20021216) with SMTP id <20030301143226.YPKH14374.mta5.adelphia.net@worldwinds> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 09:32:26 -0500 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: torqued X-Original-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 06:29:01 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal The whole subject of bolt torques was interesting and brought up several questions in my mind. First, I was told (by Carsten, I think) that nuts with nylon locks can't be reliably torqued as the resistance of the locking feature is so variable. Best to just tighten to a resistance and then a little more (??). And I note that on my ES small AN washers are supplied for putting under a nut to be used over an epoxy/glass layup. Surely any normal bolt torque applied to the very small area of the washer will yield the plastic, and in any event I assume the plastic will eventually creep, causing a loss in clamping force. On what I thought were critical load-bearing joints I put an additional hardened steel SAE-type washer under the AN washer to spread the load. I was uncomfortable using the SAE washer directly as the clearance around the bolt was considerably more than with the AN washer. For what I thought were "non-load-bearing" attachments I used aluminum AN washers to save weight. The rationale was that the aluminum washer is still far stronger than the plastic underneath. In most cases I used all-metal locking nuts as they are less than half the weight of the nylon locking nuts. The cost of the weight savings assuming the nylon locking nuts are free came out to about $40 a pound compared to my self-imposed standard of $100/pound. Anything wrong with my logic here? Gary Casey ES project, still in my garage in Thousand Oaks