Return-Path: Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com ([204.101.251.53]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:55:27 -0500 Received: from b1kafy96 (ppp78.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.245.78]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02960 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:58:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901241658.LAA02960@smtp11.bellglobal.com> From: "Ian B. Crowe" To: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Fuel Tank Pressure test Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:01:33 -0500 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> In answer to the posting by Craig I am in the middle of testing my tanks and for what it is worth here is my ten cents, albeit in Canadian funds. First two don'ts 1. I pulled a vacuum on one tank of about 10" Hg and there was a loud bang!!!! I had collapsed a portion of the skin between two ribs. After removal of the top skin I found that the foam core had cracked but the inner skin was intact. Repair job in process. Since then I have limited myself to no more than 3"Hg when required to suck epoxy into a leak. 2. When pressurizing a tank the factory told me not to use more than 0.5psi. That's right, half a pound per squinch. I had been using one psi and it does not seem to harm anythig but you are on your own there. To measure pressure you need a manometer or "U" tube make each leg about 35" long. Steal your wife's sewing tape (if you still have a wife at this stage in the building) and fasten it to a piece of board about 4 to 6" wide. Take a piece of 1/4" diameter clear plastic pipe and fasten it to the board in the shape of an U aligning one side of it to the tape. Make a base to allow the contraption to stand vertically. Fill it with water using a suitable food colouring (Canadian eh) to make the water level easy to read. Voila... one manometer. Blank off your breather on the tank and use your fuel suction exit to supply air to the tank and by means of a "T" connect the manometer. Use a fuel supply cock to admit the air or any other suitable means to cut off the flow once the the pressurization is complete. When pressurizing the tank I used shop air BUT THROUGH A REGULATOR SET AS LOW AS POSSIBLE USING A LOT OF CARE to avoid blowing all the water out of the manometer or worse still blowing up the tank. You need to have 14"of differential height between the two columns of the manometer for 1/2 psi and of course twice that for 1 psi. Go slowly, it is very easy to blow all the water out of the manometer and I suspect just as easy to blow up the tank. That would be much more spectacular than collapsing it and with much more potential for injury to the operator. I am only an expert in the collapsing of tanks. Once you have the tank pressurized the fun begins and I can do no better than refer you to the recent excellent advice I received on this channel from amongst others, Bob Chesley, Fred Moreno, Angier Ames, Neil Kruiswyk and Paul Kapcin. The last had the most elegant solution which was to use freon or whatever is allowed these days as a pressurizing medium and an electronic sniffer to detect the leaks. But you still need the manometer. As Angier noted the pressure will fluctuate with temperature and barometric pressure. I am into my third day at 25" wg and I am seeing pressure fluctuations of 2" due to my space heater and the changes in the barometric pressure. The latex glove trick is an indication of the capability of the tank to hold pressure and does act as a safety valve but the manometer is definitive and cheap if your wife does not catch you.. The above is a distillation of what I learnt from the list and my own hard won experience. Ian (Fuel tank boom) Crowe