Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:49:49 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mx2.webound.com ([216.90.136.4] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.1) with ESMTP-TLS id 1884470 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:21:49 -0500 Received: from shannon (sl-instave-1-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.239.138]) by mx2.webound.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAMHLjh88606 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:21:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kycshann@kyol.net) Reply-To: From: "Shannon Knoepflein" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Back Flying X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:21:09 -0500 Organization: ISC X-Original-Message-ID: <002c01c2924b$8d59cbb0$1805000a@shannon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal You power is going to depend heavily on which mixture setting you are using, ROP or LOP--which you didn't specify. If you are running LOP, you can calculate your power by just your fuel (too much air, so fuel is limiting factor on power). On a NA engine, 8.5:1 compression, a pretty accurate number to use is 15. Multiply your fuel burn by 15hp/gph and you will get your HP. Divide this by max continuous HP and you will have your percent power. This ONLY works LOP, as fuel is the only thing effecting power. On the ROP side, you have to use mass air flow, as the air is the limiting factor in HP (too much fuel, so air becomes limiting factor). Fuel flow doesn't matter on ROP side, as you have too much. You must use RPM and MAP to calculate the mass air flow. You engine documentation will usually come with these numbers. For example, I run my 300hp IO-540 at about 25 LOP at 5000 feet, keeping it out of the danger zone. (I'd have to run it at about 125 ROP to accomplish the same thing on the other side). This results in about 15.3-15.6gph of fuel burn, depending on the temperature. Multiplying this by 15, I'm running at 230-234hp, or 77-78% power. My CHT's are all below 330. For a note of reference, this is at 2550 rpm's, 25.5" map, but that doesn't matter at all since I'm LOP. If I go over to the ROP side, 125ROP, over 18gph, all I do is pick up about 1-2 knots, and crud up my engine with ROP crud. (this all assumes an engine with a BSFC of about 0.39 #'s-fuel/hr/hp. 5.85#'s/gal divided by 0.39 #'s-fuel/hr/hp = 15 hp/gph. For a 7.5:1 engine, it is 13.75 hp/gph due to the less efficient engine running about 0.42 BSFC) FUEL BURN DOES NOT MATTER ON ROP. :) --- Shannon Knoepflein <---> kycshann@kyol.net you wrote>>> I cruised over at 1,500 ft, 7.6 gal/hr, 55% power and 175 ktas. My engine uses 10 gal/hr at 75% power. Every .6 gal/hr below that figure is a 5% reduction in power. This comes from the engine manual. Therefore, to calculate my power, I subtract the fuel burn from 10 and divide by .6. I then multiply that number by 5% and subtract it from 75%. In the above example that would be: 1) ( 10 - 7.6 ) = 2.4 2) 2.4 / .6 = 4 3) 4 * 5% = 20% 4) 75% - 20% = 55% I am open to suggestions as to any other way to calculate the power used? -- Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, DynaComm, Corp. 248-478-4301, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.ws LNC2, O-320-D1F, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan ############################################################# For archives see the LML website: http://www.lancaironline.net/maillist.html LML members receive a 10% discount at http://www.buildersbooks.com