Return-Path: Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.67]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:31:41 -0500 Received: from RWolf99@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id CALOa07005 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:29:22 -0500 (EST) From: RWolf99@aol.com Message-ID: <1a36ba3f.36a18342@aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:29:22 EST To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: Flutter Modification X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks for the comments. I will look forward to Marv's response from Martin. I won't do anything until then. There was a suggestion that Martin was somewhat irresponsible in his comments. I hope I did not give that impression as nothing could be farther from the truth. When telling me that the flutter mod could be stopped at the bulkhead and restarted on the other side he was clear and unambiguous that it was acceptable. For my other suggestion (filling the trough instead of using the 18 + 12 + 8 inch layers) he was adamant that I was on my own here. His feeling that it should be all right was only that, the educated estimate of an expert whose initial reaction was affirmative, but he was quite clear that there was no analysis to support this opinion and I was on my own. "The analysis wasn't done that way" were his words. I'm an engineer -- I know what that means. Sorry about any confusion. I should point out that I have a lot of respect for Martin's approach and less confidence in Lance's steadfast denial of the flutter potential. When I flew stuff on the Space Shuttle, NASA was quite clear that tests are to used to verify analyses. Martin did state-of-the-art analysis and validated it with testing. The validated model showed the flutter potential, which could be discerned from test data if you knew where to look but was not a striking feature of the data. Lancair did testing, which was good, but did not appear to have an analytical model to check it against. This is why they don't believe it's there. In point of fact, not a single 320 Mk II has fallen out of the sky from flutter and that's a pretty strong indication that the plane is basically safe. But I wouldn't want to be the first (or even the second) one to hit that freak flight condition that triggers it. I'm putting the mod in but I'd like to use the trough technique if possible. - Rob Wolf