Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:24:17 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from vineyard.net ([204.17.195.90] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0) with ESMTP id 1849210 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:59:15 -0500 Received: from direct (FSY5.VINEYARD.NET [66.101.65.5]) by vineyard.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2485091DB5 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:59:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-Message-ID: <002701c280cc$a6b727a0$05416542@direct> From: "Ted Stanley" X-Original-To: "Mail List Lancair" Subject: Twins and Things X-Original-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:59:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I've been reading many of the posts regarding the Duke crash and in particular Doug Pohl's post containing the preliminary report about the crash. Allow me to share a couple of observations: I have some time in twins (about 2000hrs in a Piper Seneca III and 4000 in a Beech Baron 58) and I've passed a FAR 135 checkride every 6 months for the last 18 years or so. Controlling a twin on one engine can be easy or impossible depending on a variety of factors. Weight, CG, airspeed, configuration (flaps or gear), equipment (vortex generators for example), temperature, altitude, available power, etc. all enter into the equation. The most dangerous time for a twin is low airspeed and high power. Vmc is the speed at which directional control cannot be maintained in a specified configuration. The loss of directional control is typically the result of yaw produced by either too much thrust on one side and/or too much drag on the other. If you get too slow and add power a roll can ensue which increases stall speed and then you're in deep trouble. The ONLY solution is to reduce power, which if you're close to the ground presents its own issues. During my initial multi-engine training in a Beech Duchess we did a Vmc demonstration at 5000' msl. We hit Vmc and stall speed nearly simultaneously and the plane almost went on its back. It all happened in a split second and I've never forgotten it. If you want to get some idea of the difficulty of flying a light twin on one engine see if you can borrow one sometime and simply try to taxi it on one engine. I can be done but requires special techniques and planning ahead and some maneuvers will not be possible. Based on the information provided by Doug it seems that the pilot decided to depart with known deficiencies in his aircraft. As has been the case of thousands of pilots who preceded him, that was a poor choice. Very few accidents occur because only one thing went wrong. They almost always occur because two or more problems developed at the same time which imposed challenges on the pilot that he/she was unable to cope with. On this list I've read of various exploits of people who explored the edges of safety and were fortunate enough to return to earth unscathed. If you have a known problem, fix it first and fly later lest an unknown problem be added to the mix which is a recipe for disaster. Ted Stanley