Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:52:21 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [209.225.8.12] (HELO mx02.cluster1.charter.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0) with ESMTP id 1848890 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:19:58 -0500 Received: from [24.207.210.204] (HELO computer) by mx02.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 286725 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:45:17 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <000a01c2806e$b9eefb80$ccd2cf18@home.charterstl.com> From: "Bob Jude" X-Original-To: "Mail List Lancair" Subject: LNC2. GM28 replacement X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:47:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This subject has turned into a frustrating experience for me and I would like to hear what other LNC2 owners have to say about it. Since 1994 I have been doing my Annual Condition Inspections, using the check list in the Lancair Pilot Operating Handbook as a guide. On page VIII - 21 of the Handbook, it states "Check nose gear gas spring for 100# minimum to compress". To me this means that if the spring can be compressed and held in with less than 100# of force, it should be replaced. I recently purchased a new GM28 from Lancair, measured the force required and found it to be less than 100# (brand new). After talking to Alan, Mark and Vern at Lancair, they are of the opinion that 100 plus or minus a few pounds is OK. I know these springs don't go bad suddenly, but leak down gradually over their lifetime. So if you start out at 95 pounds, it will probably be just a few months before the spring is too weak to lock your nose gear down during free fall, even at very low airspeeds. If you slow down to about 90 MPH, your gear will may lock down but I think it should lock down at higher air speeds in order to provide a little safety factor. In my view, the minimum specification of 100# established by Lancair back in 1994 is a good number and as far as I know has not been officially changed. Vern agreed to accept return of the first GM28 and send me another. I measured the second one today and found that it is no better than the first. Now what? In the mean time, having a bad feeling about the situation, based on GM28 replacement history in my airplane, I started looking for an alternate source for gas springs. I think I found a good replacement. Only time will tell about the service life time. My GM28 replacement history is as follows: First unit came with kit (1989) -- Replaced after 12 months of service plus 5 years of shelf time -- probably good Second unit -- Replaced after 44 months of service -- a good one Third unit -- Replaced after 28 months of service -- not bad Forth unit -- Replaced after 11 months of service -- not good Fifth & sixth units -- Bad when purchased (less than 100#) To me this looks like a deteriorating situation. The alternate source that I am going to try is as follows: ________________________________________________________ Thank you for placing your order with McMaster-Carr Supply Company. Qty | Part Number/Description | Price | Shipping Info +-------+-----------------------------------+---------------+--------------+ 1 EA 9416K155 - Gas Spring With $9.90 EA Monday Threaded Ends 3.94" Stroke Length, 120 lb Force, M6 Male Thread 2 EA 9416K84 - Zinc Eyelet End $1.25 EA Monday Fitting For M6 Thread Gas Spring With Threaded Ends The two end fittings need to have a bushing pressed in to them with 1/4 inch ID. Also, the top end fitting can be trimmed in length a little in order match the extended length of the AVM unit. You can specify the compression force in 10# increments. Not sure, maybe 110# would be the best choice. The end fittings can be re-used if you need to replace the gas spring so, the follow-on replacement cost will be $9.90 instead of the current $35 plus shipping. At McMaster Carr, you can order on-line and get next-day delivery. I would like to hear from other LNC2 flyers on this subject. Where am I going wrong?