Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:14:28 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net ([24.50.78.6] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b5) with ESMTP id 1652295 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:04:42 -0400 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H029JP02.40M for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:04:37 -0400 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: Turbine power X-Original-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:03:36 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 <> I saw the ATP turbine as well and was very impressed. It uses the core of a Solar APU and I know an ex Solar engineer - I'm going to ask him how well they work. I'm afraid there is no easy answer to the fuel consumption problem as that has been the Achilles heel of the technology since day one. Air flow is essentially reduced by reducing fuel flow until the rpm drops, but since it is a dynamic compressor, it only has to drop a little to have a big effect. To make matters worse, the ATP is a single-spool engine so the prop has to keep spinning fast along with the compressor. A rule of thumb is that most turbines burn about the same amount on the ground idling as they do at high altitude cruise. It is, however, very tempting to put one on my ES and if I were building a Legacy the temptation might be too much to resist. The cruise fuel consumption might be 50% higher and the idling fuel consumption much, much higher than a piston engine. Even by adding another 200 pounds of fuel the endurance might be less than with the piston engine. It looks like they did a very nice job, though. Gary Casey ES project, long ways to go a piston engine goes "pucketa-pucketa," a rotary engine goes "whir," a turbine engine goes "whish..."