Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #14400
From: George Braly <gwbraly@gami.com>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Lean of peak
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:29:38 -0400
To: <lml>
Lean of peak
 
 
"... my guess is that we are about 60F  ROP ..."
 
Phil,  That is probably one of the least desirable places you can pick to set the mixture.
 
Why?  Because that is a mixture setting that will guarantee that the engine operates with the absolute highest peak cylinder pressures that it is possible to generate for any MP and RPM you select.
 
 
We get phone calls every day by somebody asking "Where should I set the mixture."    That takes a book to answer.
 
But if you change the question - - just a little bit, to the following:    "Where should I  *NOT* set the mixture then the answer gets very much easier.
 
The answer to this second question is much easier:
 
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A)  At very high cruise power settings,  set the mixture anywhere OUTSIDE of  the range from about 10-15F LOP out to 125 to 150F ROP.
 
B) At low power settings,  set the mixture anywhere you want.  You will not cause some major problem, other than if you run the engine too rich, you will, over time cause increased deposits and higher spark plug cleaning costs and you may, eventually cause enough deposits to result in premature maintenance.
 
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That only now leaves the question as to what is HIGH and what is LOW power settings.
 
For your engine,  anything over about  200 Hp probably falls into the "high" power setting range.
 
There is nothing magic about 1600F on your EGTs.  1600 is just fine.  There are some normally aspirated engines that will show 1600F EGTs during cruise.
 
The *absolute* value of EGT readings on these engines is nearly immaterial - - when looked at in isolation  (in the context of other things,  high EGT values can be significant... but not necessarily harmful).
 
For example, in cruise, if you turn off one mag,  the EGTs will SOAR to very high levels.  Doesn't hurt anything, because the reason  the EGTs go up  is that the single mag  operation  effectively retards the timing and that causes the EGTs to rise - - but it also causes the peak cylinder pressures to drop rapidly - - along with the  CHTS.   The lower CHTs keep the exhaust valve cool, inspire of the higher observed EGT values.
 
Regards,  George
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil S [mailto:phil@giant-steps.com.au]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:06 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Lean of peak

     Wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with operation of their TSIO550E in a IVP.
We normally operate around 18 to 20,000ft at 28inches and 2500RPM. Running ROP we are usually set up around 1600 TIT, max EGT  is around 1550 to 1560 and fuel flow is around 21.5GPH (CHT's are around 360). We use a Vision Microsystems engine monitoring system. Usually, indicated airspeed is around 210 and TAS around 250. My guess is that we are around 60 ROP on the first to peak cylinder.
When we go to LOP it is fairly straight forward to get the TIT back to 1600 but the range of EGT's is worrying...from as low as 1430 to as high as 1570...if we lean further to try and get the highest EGT back to around 1550 we start to run rough, so abandon and go back to ROP.
Is this a job for balanced injectors or is there something we are missing?
Phil Sexton
VH LLW
Melbourne Australia
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