Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 15:34:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b4) with ESMTP id 1516890 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:35:07 -0400 Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.232]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:29:03 -0400 Received: from user93.net014.fl.sprint-hsd.net ([207.30.206.93] helo=Peter) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17OKFd-0000Sa-00 for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 08:35:05 -0700 From: "Peter Van Arsdale" X-Original-To: Subject: Stalls and spins X-Original-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:36:55 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <005101c21f82$cfaf0ac0$2201a8c0@Peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01C21F61.489D6AC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C21F61.489D6AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you to James Frantz for his rational and sound opinion on stalls and spins. Also, there was an earlier opinion expressed that inexperienced pilot's are more inclined to avoid training of full stalls and spins, and the experienced are more inclined to practice them. Holding an ATP and having accumulated 6000 hrs flying passengers commercially, the only full stalls I've ever practiced were in Piper Cubs and Cessna 150/172s years ago. All other training has been approaches to stalls and well defined recovery procedures. There a numerous flight conditions I could explore to see how I handled them (Vne + 100, CFIT, inverted flight, etc.), but knowing that I don't want to go there, I feel practicing avoidance is as good a training tool as any. Kind of like using abstinance to practice safe sex. Peter Van Arsdale Naples, FL ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C21F61.489D6AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Thank = you to James=20 Frantz for his rational and sound opinion on stalls and spins. =20
 
Also, = there was=20 an earlier opinion expressed that inexperienced pilot's = are more=20 inclined to avoid training of full stalls and spins, and = the experienced=20 are more inclined to practice them.  Holding an ATP = and=20 having accumulated 6000 hrs flying passengers commercially, the only = full stalls=20 I've ever practiced were in Piper Cubs and Cessna 150/172s years = ago.  All=20 other training has been approaches to stalls and well defined = recovery=20 procedures.
 
There = a numerous=20 flight conditions I could explore to see how I handled them = (Vne +=20 100, CFIT, inverted flight, etc.), but knowing that I don't want to = go=20 there, I feel practicing avoidance is as good a training tool as = any.  Kind=20 of like using abstinance to practice safe sex.
 
Peter = Van=20 Arsdale
Naples,=20 FL 
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