Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 22:26:52 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta3.snet.net ([204.60.203.69] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b4) with ESMTP id 1516558 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:19:04 -0400 Received: from VPNuserID (48.132.252.64.snet.net [64.252.132.48]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-smtp-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id g5T0GGI5004756 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:16:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Gray" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Legacy Spin Testing? X-Original-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:18:54 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <000801c21f02$8ef4d1c0$6401a8c0@light.ge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: If you want to have some eye opening fun, next time you're flying at a safe altitude (5k agl or above), put the airplane at best angle of climb airspeed with full power, wait a couple of seconds, and pull the power to simulate an engine failure. Now, wait 2-3 seconds before you do anything to allow for reaction time and then try to get the nose down before the airplane stalls. The chances are you'll pull at least 2 negative g's doing it. Part of the factory checkout in Glasair III's was an example of this maneuver. Just their way of trying to convince you to climb out at a high airspeed to give you time to control the airplane if you lost the engine. Bruce Glasair III www.glasair.org Paul Davis wrote: (Snip) Just got to thinking about this when reading about how many stall/spin accidents occur on takeoff. I know that the way I've learned stall recovery is to unload the airplane (by pinning the nose), leveling wings (rudder) AND applying power. Might be interesting to practice recovery with the engine still at idle. I know I can recover either a power-off or power-on stall with little or no altitude loss WITH power in most of the spam cans I've flown, but I realized that I have no idea how much altitude I'll need to recover a power-off stall to a survivable descent rate WITHOUT power. Right now I'm out of medical and putting my flying budget into the airplane in the garage, so I can't even go out and try this.