Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 00:14:22 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b2) with ESMTP id 1294537 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 23:38:25 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id q.109.13fa15f1 (4329) for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 23:38:21 -0400 (EDT) From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <109.13fa15f1.2a3d622d@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 23:38:21 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] stalls X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10511 Knowing the flight hazards and training to avoid these hazards is a good thing. Fear is not an appropriate feeling to have in flight-- it can lead to irrationally thought out actions-- which can lead to disaster. I've done stalls with Don in the demonstrator and it was no big deal-- 'bout as exciting as a stall in my Bonanza. However, some pilots fear stalls. Practicing stalls (and more importantly stall recoveries (IMHO) are an essential art to staying alive in the cockpit. A stall and stall recovery have been on just about every checkride I have taken or given: sweptwing A-6 Intruders, bizjets and yes, even Cessna 152's. Invariably, the worst pilots I have flown with, instructed and tested are the ones who fear flying. Their fear of flying or some aspect of it has limited their training and experience to such a degree that they are only marginally safe in the best of conditions. Couple the fear with lack of training and ignorance of basic aeronautical knowledge and skill and you have the recipe for disaster in these high performance aircraft. Gentlemen, this ain't bowling or golf.... flying is an extreme sport. If you don't master it it will bite you. If you are afraid of stalls in these things then you should seek out training from a qualified instructor and follow the sage advice of Brent Regan and others. Start high, keep the ball in the center and don't pick up a falling wing with aileron. A wing drop during stall practice is not a spin-- but a post stall gyration. All airplanes do it if you get a deep enough stall penetration or botch the recovery. If the wing drops during stall practice, add power, neutralize the ailerons, pitch to reduce angle of attack and use opposite rudder to recover the wing to level. Trying to recover with aileron induces yaw which aggravates the roll. Jeff Edwards (but what do I know-- I'm only a Master CFII and a Designated Pilot Examiner)