Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:07:48 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.99] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b2) with ESMTP id 1292981 for marv@lancaironline.net; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 07:49:46 -0400 Received: from N295VV@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id q.16c.f1102e4 (3974) for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 07:49:35 -0400 (EDT) From: N295VV@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <16c.f1102e4.2a3b324f@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 07:49:35 EDT Subject: Re: Stalls X-Original-To: marv@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16c.f1102e4.2a3b324f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 --part1_16c.f1102e4.2a3b324f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Shannon, our low time pilot, writes: Posted for "Shannon Knoepflein" : "That's all good and everything, and I understand your point. However, I feel it is bolder to NOT practice and recover from stalls and know the characteristics of your plane than it is to try them. Not knowing how your plane will react and how to recover in the event of an inadvertent stall seems very risky to me, very bold. A lot bolder than not." Well, Shannon, you may have the luck of the learning experience that I once had--doing a snap roll wing-over in a Mooney at 3000', then standing on the firewall while the plane spun towards the ground with the engine roaring so loudly I thought the wings were going to come off. Ever try to put the correct rudder inputs when you are standing vertically on them? I had 200' left when I recovered. I, too, was a low time pilot practicing for my ticket. I do not consider the experience valuable to learning how to get out of a stall-spin. It was valuable in teaching me to concentrate on centering the ball, however. In my opinion, and I am now an old, non-bold pilot, I prefer to concentrate on the elements that tend to keep the white side of my airplane up. David Jones David Jones --part1_16c.f1102e4.2a3b324f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Shannon, our low time pilot, writes:

Posted for "Shannon Knoepflein" <kycshann@kyol.net>:

"That's all good and everything, and I understand your point.  However, I
feel it is bolder to NOT practice and recover from stalls and know the
characteristics of your plane than it is to try them.  Not knowing how
your plane will react and how to recover in the event of an inadvertent
stall seems very risky to me, very bold.  A lot bolder than not."

Well, Shannon, you may have the luck of the learning experience that I once had--doing a snap roll wing-over in a Mooney at 3000', then standing on the firewall while the plane spun towards the ground with the engine roaring  so loudly I thought the wings were going to come off.  Ever try to put the correct rudder inputs when you are standing vertically on them?   I had 200' left when I recovered.

I, too, was a low time pilot practicing for my ticket.  I do not consider the experience valuable to learning how to get out of a stall-spin.  It was valuable in teaching me to concentrate on centering the ball, however.

In my opinion, and I am now an old, non-bold pilot,  I prefer to concentrate on the elements that tend to keep the white side of my airplane up.

David Jones

David Jones
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