Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:17:37 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.38.64.29] (HELO mail2.pe.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 1180358 for lml@lancair.net; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:11:49 -0400 Received: from ieee.org (IP-93-151.gst.pe.net [64.38.93.151]) by mail2.pe.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g3NKBhC26086 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <3CC5BFE8.2B4F4EBB@ieee.org> X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:11:20 -0700 From: "Charles R. Patton" Reply-To: charles.r.patton@ieee.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: " (Lancair Mailing List)" Subject: Re: [LML] 40 degree compass error References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carl Cadwell wrote: > The solution to the compass error is to start the engine. It goes away > when the standby alternator is turning. Carl, I would have bad feelings about this solution if, as likely, it is due to field excitation current effecting the compass. What would be happening then is that as the engine is turning, and the alternator output comes up, the regulator kicks in and reduces the field excitation current -- but the key word here is "reduces." It does not eliminate it. The current will go up with low engine speed or higher system demand current, such as night flight with all lights on. What this comes down to is that the error now is a variable, and to me, the worst of all scenarios. I can compensate for a known, fixed offset, which is the point of a compass error card. But that is impossible when the error amount is not guaranteed. Ed and I have continued to have direct email conversations about his problem, and I currently believe it is some error induced by the field current in his case, but we haven't resolved it yet. It may be that Carl's problem has a different source, but I'd want to pin it down before ignoring it. I used to have a partner who said, "Ignore it, and it will come back and bite you in the ass; take the time to figure it out, and it will turn out not to have mattered." Kind of a variant on Murphy's law. But when it comes to flying, I tend to be a bit more cautious, and really want to know root cause, before I would dismiss it. My two cents worth. Regards, Charles R. Patton N360JM