Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 1161183 for rob@logan.com; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 16:42:41 -0400 Received: from mta01bw.bigpond.com ([139.134.6.78]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 07:20:53 -0400 Received: from hostname ([144.135.24.87]) by mta01bw.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 mta01bw Feb 26 2002 03:44:21) with SMTP id GU8YD000.CXB for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 21:24:36 +1000 Received: from 144.138.247.161 ([144.138.247.161]) by bwmam07.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0i 56/746816); 08 Apr 2002 21:24:29 Message-ID: <005201c1def0$3d247000$a1f78a90@direcpc.com> From: "Fred Moreno" To: "Lancair list" Subject: Electronic Interference Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:22:06 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I also feel compelled to jump in to the discussion about the Ritchie compass and electronic interference. First off, I am not familiar with the Ritchie compass. But in my last job our company was responsible for upgrading our equipment to meet European Community safety standards which included testing in noisy environments - radio frequencies and otherwise. The requirement is that the equipment must operate safely when bombarded by fairly strong and broadband signals that could originate from any source. What we found was many of our products that had been produced and operated reliably for years went ape in the test cells, and major efforts were required in the form of shielding and the addition of special components to either drain off the stray energy, block it from entering circuits, or both. Sometimes more extensive changes were required to withstand the test conditions which mimic the worst parts of the real world plus some safety margin. It's a very noisy world out there, and your electronics can get deafened and maddened (and surprised) by what they hear. The problems with interference are growing as semiconductor circuits mature. In particular, many chips are now being made with much smaller feature sizes so that more can be crammed onto a silicon wafer, thus reducing cost. This results (frequently) in lower operating voltages, but also greater sensitivity to noise inputs. Thus some of the new devices are wonderfully capable when properly used, but if not protected from spurious electronic noise from the surrounding environment, they can be jammed the same way you can jam a simple radar - flood the input stage with enough noise and the receiver loses its ability to detect and process signal. In the case of logic devices operating at low voltages and high frequencies, the results can be especially unpredictable. The trend is that we can expect modern electronic devices (bare, unprotected) to become more and more sensitive to noise, and thus it becomes more and more important to protect these components with blocking and filtering devices capable of operating over a wide range of conditions. We used to joke that the threat environment was "DC to daylight" meaning signals at all wavelengths from the longest to the shortest. So while we are the beneficiaries of better and more capable electronic devices available at lower and lower prices, if they are not properly shielded and defended against noisy environments (like airplanes bristling with transmitters), one can expect reliability problems if the proper design considerations were not included in the system architecture. Sadly, Hamid only speaks the truth. With more and more delicate chips and more and more noise in the environment (radios, cell phones, satellite phones, and on and on) it is getting tougher and tougher to design systems that will be absolutely reliable in difficult operating environments. It is sad because it makes it much more difficult for the garage entrepreneur to produce a reliable and satisfactory product. Fred Moreno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>