Return-Path: Received: from fep03-svc.tin.it ([212.216.176.34]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA11466 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:51:28 -0500 Received: from tin.it ([212.216.215.194]) by fep03-svc.tin.it (InterMail v4.0 201-221-105) with ESMTP id <19981202215145.GCCL15472.fep03-svc@tin.it> for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 22:51:45 +0100 Message-ID: <3665B612.11AE6214@tin.it> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 22:50:11 +0100 From: John F: Herminghaus Reply-To: catignano@tin.it To: Lancairlist Subject: Boots X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> During a recent visit Don Goetz told me that Lancair was testing two de-icing systems: one thermal (electric) and one which breaks the ice into pieces with vibrations. He said that one of the systems should be released for retrofit by the end the year. Boots? Ask the man who has owned them. I have, on a Baron. They are expensive, high maintenance and unreliable. The one time I really needed them they were frozen shut. Through a leak or whatever moisture had gotten inside. During the pre-flight they worked fine - of course, it was not freezing on the ground. Should one still be interested, please don't forget that you need 18psi to inflate them and vacuum to deflate. Once you have them, you should learn to use them. >From whom? I took the Flight Safety course on the Baron, and they were discussed a lot but there was no practice, neither real nor simulated. It is easy to say you should wait until there is 1/4" to 1/2" before you pop them, but I am certain that, like most other skills, it takes a while before you have an acceptable level of skill. Just for information: On the Baron (known ice), in addition to the windshield, the stall warning and fuel vents were heated. Also, MT offers prop-deice for around $2000. It uses between 8-12amps. They said they were using the system on the Piper Mirage. Flying mainly in Europe, I certainly want to go the de-ice route, but God forbid that the only solution is boots. John Herminghaus catignano@tin.it