Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.7) with ESMTP id 1147272 for rob@logan.com; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 04:00:26 -0500 Received: from C9Mailgw06.amadis.com ([216.163.188.202]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 22:31:44 -0500 Received: from c9service12.amadis.com (10.9.0.1) id 3C9964F80002E4D4 for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:32:00 -0800 Received: from oemcomputer (148.64.12.247) by c9service12.amadis.com (NPlex 5.5.042) id 3C9C050300004499 for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:32:00 -0800 Message-ID: <00b601c1d2e4$d928f100$f70c4094@oemcomputer> From: "Tom Hall" To: Subject: Turbine Lancair IVPT Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 22:34:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> The Lancair Newsletter Vol. 16, issue No. 2, contains a more precise and considered evaluation of range, speed and fuel consumption than the one in Private Pilot. At max. allowable ITT and 24,000, speed should be more on the order of 330 kts and burn of 36GPH. Max range is obtained at the more sedate 295Kts economy power setting and fuel burn drops to 28 GPH at 24,000. Even at this setting, max VFR range is probably less than 1000NM although at econo cruise, range may reach 850NM with reserves. I agree that $220k is not reasonably attainable, but $250k may be doable. The fast build Turbine kit is actually $110.4 k. The prop is more in the range of 13.5-14.5k, unless you opt for the Hartzell, which is 25k. A 601-D Walter can be had with new IRAN for $32.5k. While i'm sure that you can spend 10k for an interior, I believe that a diligent buyer can cut that in half. Paint also should be well less than 10k. Obviously one can spend 30k or 300k for avionics and such. Naturally, fast build doors and builder's assist weeks also add $. Bleed air for pressurization and heat is no problem, BUT it does come at the cost of some reduction in efficiency. The factory a/c just installed pressure bulkheads in late fall. The fuel capacity is 125 gal. and is gained by a sump beneath the fuel valve. I had concerns of fuel vs range and that was my main interest during test flight. Even at low altitude (12,000), the power can be reduced to a burn of 32 GPH and still see a TAS in excess of 250Kts. Takeoff stabilized at 200kts and ROC of 3800-4000FPM. With regard to decents, at 4000 FPM, it doesn't take long to get from 10,000 to the ground and still stay below 200kts. As you indicate, ATC can cause delays in climb, but with power reduced and still 200+ kts and fuel burn 30 GPH or less, you can get out of most airspace in no time. Better yet, avoid or go over. Naturally, if you are going over 18,000, you have to play with the system, but cross country, that's usually not a problem. There are no perfect aircraft. Some are fast. Some have great range and low fuel consumption. Some are great short field. All are compromises. After my trip to Redmond, I decided that I could live with 300kts and a 700-800 mile IFR range. OK, I may have to stop for fuel on a 1000 NM trip going west. My current a/c has 8hours of fuel and i usually do that anyway, even though it may not be necessary. IVP pistons are great aircraft too. Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya chances. Tom Hall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>