Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.6) with ESMTP id 1129238 for rob@logan.com; Sat, 09 Mar 2002 14:22:08 -0500 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.105]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:03:07 -0500 Received: from Epijk@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id k.37.2403d991 (4366) for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:06:00 -0500 (EST) From: Epijk@aol.com Message-ID: <37.2403d991.29bbb717@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:05:59 EST Subject: One more vibration issue To: lancair.list@olsusa.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> In a message dated 3/8/2002 5:46:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, StarAerospace@aol.com writes: <<<...pointing out the difference between using the mass of a metal prop (actually rotational inertia) for "damping" (actually lowering the excitation frequency)...>>> Eric: I hate to beat a point to death, but in this case, the concept is important. Increasing the mass moment of inertia of the crankshaft system (with a heavier prop, for example) does NOTHING to change the damping of a system nor does it alter the EXCITATION frequency. However, it DOES reduce the torsional natural frequency (or RESONANT frequency) of the crankshaft system. The natural frequency is the number of cycles-per-second at which the system will vibrate when excited by a single pulse. The excitation FREQUENCY is established (primarily) by the excitation ORDER and the engine RPM. The number of cylinders establishes the primary excitation ORDER. (example: 4-stroke, 6-cylinder, even-fire engine: 3 power pulses per crank rotation, hence 3rd order excitation.) Secondary factors include piston/conrod geometry. The excitation FREQUENCY (in cycles-per-second, or HERTZ) is the product of ORDER x RPM / 60 (example: IO-540 at 2700 RPM: 3 x 2700 / 60 = 135 Hz excitation) The problems get significant when a system having little or no DAMPING (like a crankshaft) is being excited at or near its resonant frequency (or by an excitation which is some integer- multiple of the res. freq.) In that neighborhood, because of energy storage and feedback, the amplitude of the oscillations can grow rapidly until the strength of the material is exceeded (aka "breakage"). When the excitation exceeds 1.414 times the res.freq., the amplitude of the resulting oscillations tends to diminish, and depending on how LITTLE damping the system contains, the amplitude of the PULSES transmitted to devices driven by the engine can diminish to very low numbers. Arbitrarily raising (lightweight prop) or lowering the Crankshaft Resonant Frequency (CRF) might by good, or it might be bad. Can't tell without knowing the design CRF and the resulting margins between CRF and expected excitation IN THE OPERATING RANGE. (Recall the yellow-band on the tach for 4-cylinder Lyc's without the pendulous counterweight system?) For a more detailed treatment of the subject, see: http://www.epi-eng.com/VibrationBasics.htm Jack Kane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>