Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.4) with ESMTP id 1043508 for rob@logan.com; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 13:54:17 -0500 Received: from qbert.gami.com ([65.66.11.38]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 12:48:32 -0500 Received: by QBERT with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 12:01:37 -0600 Message-ID: <52548863F8A5D411B530005004759A931C2183@QBERT> From: George Braly To: "'lancair.list@olsusa.com'" Subject: RE: oxygen Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 12:01:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> A 90% SaO2 is the normal level of ogygen in your veins, not your arteries. As such, it should be an absolute lower limit of SaO2 to fly. Below that you get in trouble FAST. (Again, I won't reproduce the graphs or equations.)<< Ted, Have YOU ever flown to 15K or higher with a pulse oximeter, unpressurized? I do this often and with a wide variety of pilots. In my experience, only a third of the pilots will maintain more than about 87% using nasal canulas. NONE are in trouble. I have seen a significant percentage of people that show as low as 78 to 83% at 18000', on the pulse oximeter and they stayed that way for hours and were just fine. Now... don't jump on me here. I know that in a hospital setting, somebody that low is a candidate for a code blue, but it is *** IN FACT *** correct data for people (including myself) who have flown at altitude for years on nasal canulas. The first time I saw that on a pulse oximeter, I was hugely surprised!!! I then cranked up the nasal canula flow rate to use the MASK flow rate and that brought my personal level up from 83 to about 87. Using the Mountain High pulse units, I can keep my O2 sat on the pulse oximeter up in 89 to 92 range routinely. I absolutely ***DO*** feel much better when I do that at the end of a 3 hour flight. However, there is something weird going on here between the medical understanding of O2 saturations and the real world pilot measurement with oximeters, since a LOT of pilots fly around at 15 to 18K on canulas, and a significant percentage of them have O2sats on the oximeter that are below 85%. Regards, George >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>