Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 850466 for rob@logan.com; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:02:01 -0400 Received: from portal.udlp.com ([207.109.1.80]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:22:14 -0400 Received: from portal.udlp.com (root@localhost) by portal.udlp.com with ESMTP id XAA01956 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:32:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ccmail.udlp.com ([10.1.6.254]) by portal.udlp.com with ESMTP id XAA01945 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:32:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ccMail by ccmail.udlp.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.14) id 007CE43F; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:30:17 -0500 From: CHRISTOPHER_ZAVATSON@udlp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:22:43 -0500 Message-ID: <007CE43F.C21254@udlp.com> Subject: Bolt Torques To: Lancair.list@olsusa.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> <> Rob, The dishing you are experiencing is due the fire wall material not being able to support the compressive load imposed by the bolt. At the same time, the area washer is not stiff enough to adequately distribute the load across enough of the softer wood/fiber glass below. The first thing I would recommend doing is to remove the nuts and see if the fiberglass was damaged or is merely following the new dished contour of the plywood. Any cracking of the epoxy up against the bolt area is the concern. If the deformation is small, I would recommend filling the depression with flox and bolting in new area washer with just enough torque to snug it against the fire wall and squeeze out excess flox. Don't worry about any release for this washer. There is no reason to remove it later. Once cured add another area and one regular washer under the nut. This will help distribute the load over a larger area. Even then, I would not go to full torque on this installation. This joint will never be able to load the bolts to the point of needing that much preload. Something like 35 ftlb will do just fine in terms of holding your engine in, but more importantly will keep from crushing your fire wall any further. These bolts must be checked every annual. The plywood can relax over time resulting in loss of torque and preload. The standard torques listed in 43-13 and elsewhere assume that the item being bolted can withstand the load. This is not the case for this particular installation and there are plenty of other examples in our planes where these torques will damage hardware. Chris Zavatson N91CZ 360std >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>