Return-Path: Received: from www01.netaddress.usa.net ([204.68.24.21]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with SMTP id AAA16101 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:25:05 -0500 Received: (qmail 1186 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 1998 18:25:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19981106182520.1185.qmail@www01.netaddress.usa.net> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 18:25:20 From: Dan Schaefer To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: hydro system lo pressure X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> To Angier Ames: You asked if Lancairs have a gear down-lock problem should the hydro pressure bleed down over time, and the answer is NO. I'm not surprised that this warning came from the Glasair community because the Glasair definitely DOES have the problem since they rely on hydro pressure for their down-lock (at least on the Glasair III). Lancairs don't have the problem because, as you know, Lancairs use mechanical, over-center down locks, energized by coil or pneumatic springs. The equivalent to the Glasair bleed down problem in a Lancair would be to have the gas spring on the nose gear go flat, i.e., bleed down, and have the down-lock coil springs on the main gear fail. An unlikely event just sitting on the ground for a while. As a matter of fact, when I get ready to leave my hangar, I usually crack the gear dump valve momentarily to relieve the pressure in the system. Since any hydro system will bleed down sooner or later, and even the best systems will seep some small amount of fluid while doing so, it makes sense to just beat it to the punch and relieve the pressure right up front. A secondary benefit of this is a definite indication of pump operation when I power up the next time. If I don't hear the pump run briefly (about 1 second) while it brings up system pressure when the master is turned on, I will stop and figure out why. Hasn't happened yet, but I'll catch it if it does. The gear down-locks in this case, are the same ones you are going to rely on if the day ever comes where a electrical or hydro failure makes you use the emergency gear extension - you will have zero hydro pressure then too. In a Lancair, it's a non-event (assuming of course, you've done an emergency gear drop test in the last month, IN THE AIR, and all goes as it should - in my airplane, the gear actually goes down and locks faster that way than when pumped down!) In a Glasair, it's probably best described as a disaster because the gear will almost certainly fold without pressure. I'm not speaking from any kind of prejudice here, either - the fellow in the hangar next to mine has a Glasair III which just last year had the gear fold up as he turned off the runway because his hydro system had failed. When he got it back to the hangar, I went over to see what had happened (and look at his redesigned three-blade Hoffman prop - shorter is definitely NOT in!) and that's when I found out about the way it down-locks (or not, as the case may be). Couldn't believe my ears when he told me! Thanks, but no thanks - I'll take the Lancair system any day - and if I was a Glasair driver, I'd sure figure a way to modify the down-lock to be pressure independent, like Lancair's. Dan Schaefer N235SP ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1