Return-Path: Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.5]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA10186 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:22 -0500 Received: from DHmiel@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 8VEJa02539 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:20:54 -0500 (EST) From: DHmiel@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:20:54 EST To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: Stall Speeds/Speed Brakes X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Mark, Just some more info to add to those good words from David Jones. The speed brakes on the Lancairs are primarily speed brakes not spoilers as they are located well aft on the wing chord. They still do, however, kill some lift, even at the lower approach speeds. So, the stall speed with the speed brakes extended is higher. Lancair (and other manufacturers as well) recommends adding about 10 knots to the approach speed should the speed brakes not retract for some reason. Everything is going in the wrong direction for short field landings isn't it. And to repeat, 1700 feet is AWFULLY short for an airplane of the ES's nature. Good Luck! Dave Hmiel L IV P N235LP