Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #8102
From: Russell Duffy <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Detonated! :-(
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:51:01 -0500
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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I wonder if Rusty got one of them girl hockey players to shove a puck up my tail-pipe.. would that do it? I probably deserve it for reposting them pics.
   
I specifically told them to shove it up your tail-pipe, not the plane's :-)   For the record, I'm not mad at you for the pics.
 
I'm glad there was a safe ending to the story, which was well written BTW.  I'd love to know what the actual boost was.  With enough fuel, and a little less timing advance, you can survive a reasonable amount of boost, but there are limits, particularly with higher compression rotors. 
 
As you know, lack of boost control is one of the reasons I don't consider the stock turbo suitable for our applications.  It was made to boost at low rpms, to help with street applications, which means it overboosts in our application.  The internal wastegate (even ported) can't dump enough exhaust to control the boost at full throttle.  For example, John's new turbo (when it was on my plane) would exceed 10 psi (50 MAP) with the wastegate manually held wide open.  This was at static rpms near 5000, so you can imagine what the boost would be at 6500.   You're muffler will add a tiny amount of backpressure, which will help control the boost, but I doubt it's enough. 
 
Now that you're doing a rebuild, have you considered installing 8.5 cr rotors?  I have a set that came out of my new "generator" engine,  so they only have the Mazda test run time on them.  I've been meaning to put them on Ebay, but if you want to install them, they're yours for the price of postage.  Also, why not consider an aftermarket turbo that's sized more appropriately?  I know this would be expensive, and a pain to install, but consider how expensive and inconvenient an off airport landing could be. 
 
FWIW, I'm not completely against turbos, and have recently been missing the power I used to have.  If this new manifold business doesn't work out, I just might think about turbos again, but it won't be a stock Mazda turbo. 
 
Cheers,
Rusty (still in search of performance)
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