Return-Path: Received: from [216.52.245.18] (HELO ispwestemail1.mdeinc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b3) with ESMTP id 3228138 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 12 May 2004 07:25:04 -0400 Received: from 7n7z201 (unverified [67.136.145.204]) by ispwestemail1.mdeinc.com (Vircom SMTPRS 3.1.300.2) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 04:24:59 -0700 Message-ID: <016a01c43813$bd08c860$0f928843@7n7z201> From: "William" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mogas issues Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 22:16:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 There are some issues with mogas and epoxy tanks. We ran some test on samples coated with the Jeffco9700 FCR , and it stood up well to a mixture of gas and alcohol concocted to be as agressive as possible. The plain resin (Aeropoxy 2032) swelled and flaked in short order. The mogas without alcohol is not a problem. Alcohol alone is usually not a problem, but the mix can have deleterious effects. My wing tanks are coated with Jeffco but the joints to close the tanks aren't, so i am leery of using mogas with alcohol in the tanks. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:23 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mogas issues > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tracy Crook > Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:33 am > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mogas issues > > > > > > Mogas stinks - literally. You'll have an > > airplane and a hanger that > > > smells like a jet ski . It makes passengers sick > > real fast. You will get > > > tired of the transporting hassles too. I've > > never seen any data on > > > storage stability, but I know the makers never > > plan on it being around much > > > longer that a few days. > > > > Oh Good grief, would anyone take this kind of > stuff seriously? > > > > Tracy (ran Sun100 race on 3 week old 87 octane Mogas) > > Yes, at least until they knew better or they I knew > someone with actual experience who could tell them > different. Better to look like a ignoramus asking > ridiculous questions, than have a stinking airplane > with an engine that won't run. I posted the issues > here, 'cause I thought there might be at least one > or two who've flown with mogas a few times 8*) > > I keep hearing nebulous concerns about mixing mogas > with composite tanks like the Delta has (alcohol > will attack the epoxy, etc), but it doesn't seem > like anyone has any solid data. Just innuendo. > That is why I was talking with an epoxy expert. I > appreciate Perry's data point and 5yrs of > experience. Perry, what epoxy did you use for the > tanks, and do you take any special precautions when > fueling up? > > The other two 'issues' were out of the blue. The > Cherokee I trained in used mogas. I never noted > excessive smell, and my flight instructor said it > kept his plugs clean. The issue with stale gas has > some credence due to my observation of some > ultralighter who religiously dump 30day old > two-stroke mixes. What I didn't get was how 100LL > smelled any better or stored any longer. Both > issues appear to be red herrings. > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html