X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-KAS-Score: 0 [] From: "Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com" Received: from mail-ed1-f52.google.com ([209.85.208.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.4.0) with ESMTPS id 2907009 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:31:23 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.208.52; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-ed1-f52.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5643ae47cd3so5603510a12.3 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:31:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1708536665; x=1709141465; darn=lancaironline.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=bHJtJPX80B+/aByk4gdFLNuabC4Yx0E6maK0KMn6NGQ=; b=htsjESbhZXqZdYBSft4hcTM06T3gSfR+Fyf/lP8urk3RqKhyLoiucxbzFoMSAwpvLg BPdPeptlQ1JeqMi4+YZgnS2KA0lZqLVrxCGN5TYMdXi9Wh6ITvd9/hH3ZoQUbYy1Q/+j M7hONhQbfZPwO/3PjUHQryfReV+F2ExAp+RO/2Z8ah2mhorBmKcSpiAndNm0Wa0vcqBz VXb/P8/Rw3cfUTgARQ4XyhsDiLIUPamjHBc35tEv1Ps0cVAP6w5kWbwHruziGkj+iHGI P+meYTF+PDuMRaZR7UicL66yeW8PcWIZJcLwwEE/YrRPs4V0Ul0W+TmZAt+mVM/acbSn S9NQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1708536665; x=1709141465; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=bHJtJPX80B+/aByk4gdFLNuabC4Yx0E6maK0KMn6NGQ=; b=MiFRIZjD6kgGxC2fCmU09H75oVgV1f0ryS6MBmhUA0GHTvwH8FV7vj3HolJgwkpuWq 98XVblKkeTkiCGKB/JrNjsZ4sYcwxdzMo/UuHfpVP5KfePf8LbehR6s2o7eiI+rmHP6a OcHAx+65Qyw3n5R41+GL89rnIZVTq6XHGBDHCt9dDQpxpREIX/a8uFaaQy2i4+HwKISj Z/Uq0sQlhy5r4vFOV2BQq/LkYseyG8Supal2Rxk9KBEIRh21Hec4E7lzJRcWhIqh1uHD xoUyShsLQXa7GJWdSJZO6pRBeF8LAS0N27TcsEBWhVD3Gs44RLhTTMC9NQK23ZFg0ynF qaeQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyTu6AMuyDWKpBx52mYBf74j4iC9DwjEHnmZq0O77E6/KU+6418 ljCNHyz9zsv9bQ2uTY4E6tWxoi0b5+2FDy5y3T8b8lYl0hQfSz2b7iP3BiBUWUBTS8+Dsxwr4vi ftBW2/oVCyQPzgrNpbFjQCvrCD3E6nLn/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEB7eCmxLx2kPNi6T4KurmneM+nQuyF8fBi0kOotRYuFpQRczlOCPNQS+/kYoaj5pRLd9i6VRaxCqGUTvwRI6Y= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:d84d:0:b0:563:eca6:7345 with SMTP id f13-20020aa7d84d000000b00563eca67345mr11007587eds.9.1708536665145; Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:31:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:30:53 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuelteck To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000003038f0611e7b1f3" --00000000000003038f0611e7b1f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It does, and it's a really tempting option for the money. But can you get a 'hardened' Arduino processor for it? The processors in the RWS controllers, and the Micro/Mega stuff, and (I assume) the same or similar processors as the automotive world, and they've been thrashed in pretty much every possible manner by the auto mfgrs to beat out potential failure modes due to the hostile environment they operate in. On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 11:11=E2=80=AFAM Terry Adams terrywadams@sbcglobal.= net < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Speeduino does all that and costs $150 > > On 2/21/2024 6:47 AM, Les C lesphoto@hotmail.com wrote: > > I'm going to use Megasquirt MS3 Ultimate on my 20B. I've been running a > mega squirt in my Jeep for over 10 years. The unit has never failed me. I= t > has a great user interface, the tuning software runs on a stable Linux > platform, and allows me a view screen that is programmable with all my > custom parameters. It easily handles three rotor ignition with split > timing, staged fuel injection, multiple tables, multiple oxygen sensors, > and multiple map sensors. Other features include fuel pump control, knock > and detonation detection. This will allow me as close to a FADEC experien= ce > as possible. The tuning software will allow a number of custom inputs, > including multiple pressure and temperature readings. Recording is > continuous, and can be extracted via SD card, Bluetooth, or USB. The > current pricing for the ECU only is about $1,300, and a copy of the tunin= g > software is $80. A generic wiring harness is about $200. Additional costs > for the oxygen sensor and controller will bring my total package up to > about $2,000. Let me know if you have any questions. > > Get Outlook for Android > ------------------------------ > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft > on behalf of David Leonard > wdleonard@gmail.com > > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2024 6:53:56 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Fuelteck > > I am in the process of installing the fuetech as well. I wanted to add > that it also has a screen, visible in sunlight, that is a complete engine > monitor, expandable, fairy useful, and data logging possible. > > add those features and it becomes cheaper than a EC2 + EM2 > > Dave Leonard. > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2024, 12:32 PM Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > Have been flying with the fueltech for possibly 8 years after my EMC > caused problems. tracy was able to fix, no problems, but due to time in > freight to the US and OZ I was down for 6 weeks. Did fiddle with another > local Oz version but was complicated. The local rotary gurus put me onto > the fueltech which is also complicated as is designed for race cars / > hotrods etc.. It does have a section especially for rotarys, possibly 3 > pages but controls everything well. IN Oz at the time it was dear at $280= 0 > AUD but had and still has backup. Controls spark, fuel, timing, turbo on = a > rotary. Then there is about 70 pages of stuff you will not need in > aircraft, like gear change, burnouts, boost and whatever else they use in > drag racing. For me the big issue is backup which these days in OZ is > impossible to get in anything. > Neil Unger. > > > -- > Communication ink and paper free > > --00000000000003038f0611e7b1f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It = does, and it's a=C2=A0really=C2=A0tempting option for the money. But ca= n you get a 'hardened' Arduino processor for it? The processors in = the RWS controllers, and the Micro/Mega stuff, and (I assume) the same or s= imilar processors as the automotive world, and they've been thrashed in= pretty much every possible manner by the auto mfgrs to beat out potential = failure modes due to the hostile environment they operate in.
On Wed, = Feb 21, 2024 at 11:11=E2=80=AFAM Terry Adams terrywadams@sbcglobal.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
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Speeduino does all that and costs $150

On 2/21/2024 6:47 AM, Les C lesphoto@ho= tmail.com wrote:
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I'm going to use Megasquirt=C2=A0 MS3 Ultimate = on my 20B. I've been running a mega squirt in my Jeep for over 10 years. The unit has never failed me. It has a great user interface, the tuning software runs on a stable Linux platform, and allows me a view screen that is programmable with all my custom parameters. It easily handles three rotor ignition with split timing, staged fuel injection, multiple tables, multiple oxygen sensors, and multiple map sensors. Other features include fuel pump control, knock and detonation detection. This will allow me as close to a FADEC experience as possible. The tuning software will allow a number of custom inputs, including multiple pressure and temperature readings. Recording is continuous, and can be extracted via SD card, Bluetooth, or USB. The current pricing for the ECU only is about $1,300, and a copy of the tuning software is $80. A generic wiring harness is about $200. Additional costs for the oxygen sensor and controller will bring my total package up to about $2,000. Let me know if you have any questions.

From:= Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> on behalf of David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 6:53:56 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuelteck
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I am in the process of installing the fuetech as well.=C2=A0 I wanted to add that it also has a screen, visible in sunlight, that is a complete engine monitor, expandable, fairy useful, and data logging possible.

add those features and it becomes cheaper than a EC2 + EM2=C2=A0

Dave Leonard.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024, 12:32 PM Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Have been flying with the fueltech for possibly 8 years after my EMC caused problems.=C2=A0 tracy wa= s able to fix, no problems, but due to time in freight to the US and OZ I was down for 6 weeks. Did fiddle with another local Oz version but was complicated. The local rotary gurus put me onto the fueltech which is also complicated as is designed for race cars / hotrods etc..=C2= =A0 It does have a section especially for rotarys, possibly 3 pages but controls everything well. IN Oz at the time it was dear at $2800 AUD but had and still has backup. Controls spark, fuel, timing, turbo on a rotary. Then there is about 70 pages of stuff you will not need in aircraft, like gear change, burnouts, boost and whatever else they use in drag racing.=C2=A0 For me the big issue is backup which these days in OZ is impossible to get in anything.
Neil Unger.

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