X-Junk-Score: 40 [XX] X-KAS-Score: 40 [XX] From: "Mark McClure mark.mcclure.m3@gmail.com" Received: from mail-ua1-f41.google.com ([209.85.222.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.4.0) with ESMTPS id 2844372 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:18:35 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.222.41; envelope-from=mark.mcclure.m3@gmail.com Received: by mail-ua1-f41.google.com with SMTP id a1e0cc1a2514c-7d130979108so855114241.1 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 13:18:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1706563098; x=1707167898; darn=lancaironline.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ywYRSaf2I4HuGXVktuY/s8qBw13hbuGhzgVnER6rZTc=; b=YERwrx7GllhdrMCSIm2iOLa9cjhyBPcYP4rjkv9QIelfOSfk17NOjqVtfGiW07nN5g +TryKZ8wyOsEcUlfn6TVb7TZe1j0sRoxUIPBePlQi7+JP9cD8+X/QzAjrtk4JNARrEa4 pqE5pjiQROKawGpRGsilRSdOwSNNk6B/ccIj6gyQ35t4nWOdFIyutVaFM80L7cHgBvME QBgeyFmoMGlccSY9xO0FYBPY2tbxlItmAJyRm4XINk0hxlFEOI2aGaV+OgxwRkejWaMD GpD3k5cOJhKTk6TGWtT9VaDUYHRQHvJQNyz4jExpg10BRSdLi/BuoZJoWZJVEyQ4XD9p kPbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1706563098; x=1707167898; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=ywYRSaf2I4HuGXVktuY/s8qBw13hbuGhzgVnER6rZTc=; b=ly1AVuiT78iihUlnG857Nme/kdvq2CE6s4vDKnPdaFNRybGLO2LkbI5r4MhFkPz29l 0YWtLluR/eRBPYCukmdVfms1PGgTrXoWFeuIN/gD4HcmlnfPLMzUuENS5z3HPE0U447Y +VeBQeyS5s1sGvpyENq3+62ahkDNjgH9X4nLl+GbQkWsaBswlwBq16+CsBlu99lIgcJ7 Maafw6OYipX4ALEi3iiEudzwsrDp+gfa+ygXk8XOYwN9xl5xje/7mjvI5l0AUv2xdeMf 5Cb+E9s4nU9kDlfh8Gq+iwDQQKVIfwvkuQM4bsu2ya3K1GzasGfC78Upbg814dabFafh /7WA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy9clRJC0txPx3OgP4cPClCBMcKtPyxLplS0hsuUoQTTGvQQ1Wx yaRPiFjWgrYJbbuw2pjofuKsKNa6uFEwcujwa3yaG4QZ0vjxD48qnDhehr+rrwcZ5VVBY1s7M0Z BDnrpXP5nPUXJUkAB1Q+XVTsZFvsu13Ci X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFIoVy74RiIb73/l3JtZt52D9z+PoyfpuC1/jFnNj7kha5EE/AocYCzAX4Co3X+jqzw7fgGLSIMAtcSfVCqJyw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:665:b0:469:a971:f60f with SMTP id z5-20020a056102066500b00469a971f60fmr2824076vsf.7.1706563098434; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 13:18:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: markmcclure@me.com Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:18:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis 4-port intake manifold plate? To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000044e5f906101c2f2a" --00000000000044e5f906101c2f2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a CNC file that I can send you, that you then could send out to a shop. I used it to mill my own (I have a shapeoko) but would recommend sending it out vs me making it for you as my aluminum work is not that great. (Still working on my skills) I'm traveling right now, so it will be next week when I can get the file uploaded. Warm regards, Mark On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 5:15=E2=80=AFPM Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.co= m < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > It's been a long time, but IIRC I used an intake gasket as a pattern, cut > the intake passages, and then sat the plate on a stock intake to pattern > the perimeter and mounting holes. I did have access to a Bridgeport at th= e > time, but I can't remember if I did it on the mill or 'freehand'. In > retrospect, I kinda wish I'd gone a bit thicker with the plate sticking u= p > farther at the top; that could have provided a tie-point for the motor > mount arm on that side of the motor. What stopped me at the time was that= I > couldn't see a reliable way to duplicate that on the plugs- side of the > engine. After the fact, I now think it would have been possible. > > I used aluminum brazing rod to attach the 6061 tubes to the 6061 plate, > trying to avoid warping the plate. My highly skilled/experienced neighbor > suggested using a steel plate and stainless tubing so it could be TIG'd, > contending that it would make very little difference in weight. In > retrospect, he was probably right, and steel would have made using the > intake flange as a motor mount very simple compared to using aluminum, wi= th > the restrictions/uncertainty of structural welding on aluminum. > > FWIW... > > > > Virus-free.www.avast.com > > <#m_-5887000273810439160_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 1:59=E2=80=AFPM Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.n= et < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > >> Anyone have a 1/4" (or so) thick milled or water-jet cut intake plate >> for a 4-port Renesis they want to part with? >> >> I made mine with three individual plates (mainly for weight), but the >> JB-weld is cracking around the center plate. >> >> So I'm thinking about making a new intake manifold -- welded or brazed >> this time. >> >> Finn >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > --00000000000044e5f906101c2f2a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a CNC file that I can send you, that you then could= send out to a shop. I used it to mill my own (I have a shapeoko) but would= recommend sending it out vs me making it for you as my aluminum work is no= t that great. (Still working on my skills)

I'm trave= ling right now, so it will be next week when I can get the file uploaded.

Warm regards,
Mark



On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 5:15=E2=80=AFPM Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>= wrote:
It's been a long time, but IIRC I used a= n intake gasket as a pattern, cut the intake passages, and then sat the pla= te on a stock intake to pattern the perimeter and mounting holes. I did hav= e access to a Bridgeport at the time, but I can't remember if I did it = on the mill or 'freehand'. In retrospect, I kinda wish I'd gone= a bit thicker with the plate sticking up farther at the top; that could ha= ve provided a tie-point for the motor mount arm on that side of the motor. = What stopped me at the time was that I couldn't see a reliable way to d= uplicate that on the plugs- side of the engine. After the fact, I now think= it would have been possible.

I used aluminum brazing rod to attach the 6061 tubes to the 6061 plate= , trying to avoid warping the plate. My highly skilled/experienced neighbor= suggested using a steel plate and stainless tubing so it could be TIG'= d, contending that it would make very little difference in weight. In retro= spect, he was probably right, and steel would have made using the intake fl= ange as a motor mount very simple compared to using aluminum, with the rest= rictions/uncertainty of structural welding on aluminum.

FWIW...

3D""Virus-free.www.avast= .com

On Fri, Jan 26= , 2024 at 1:59=E2=80=AFPM Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Anyone have a 1/4" (or so) thi= ck milled or water-jet cut intake plate
for a 4-port Renesis they want to part with?

I made mine with three individual plates (mainly for weight), but the
JB-weld is cracking around the center plate.

So I'm thinking about making a new intake manifold -- welded or brazed =
this time.

Finn


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