Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #67522
From: Doug Lomheim rv9flyer13b@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Updates on Muffler Experiences?
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2023 08:11:30 -0500
To: Rotary Motors in Aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Andrew:  

Thanks for the great information!  Are you using 304 or 321 stainless steel, and by “thick wall”, is that about .065 or so?  

Doug 




>Hi Steve
>here you go. couple of qualifiers, Tin can is only a heat shield,is standard milk tin so gives idea of scale. muffler section was made from thick wall SS tube. Exhaust exits high on cowl, This is my own requirement as I live on a farm and didn't >want grass fires in summer. Tip is visible from cockpit so gives visual clue as to how smooth engine is running, (and it works for the pt6 in the Thrush). If I done it again might consider having tailpipe go vertical down through the cowl, would >get heat away from intake manifold and keep the peanut gallery at the aeroclub happy.
>Andrew

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 7:06 am, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Hi Andrew

Do you have a photo of your engine/mufler?

Steve Izett


> On 29 Oct 2023, at 10:31 pm, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

> Hi Doug, 
> My setup is for a Renesis so bit different to an 86 13b, what I found worked well is a short & compact muffler, all homemade, a 60mm perforated ss tube welded to the mazda renesis exhaust manifold that was shortened as much as possible. I perforated the 60mm tube with 10mm drilled holes, enough so area of drilled holes is same as pipe inlet.  A 100mm ss tube covers the 60mm tube and outlet of 100mm is at same end as inlet of 60mm, this is important to send sound waves back to source (works similar theory to ANR headset apparently). muffler is short, approx 150mm to keep it rigid & fit the space next to the psru. end plates of muffler were cut from 6mm plate & fully welded to both inner & outer tubes and covered with lightweight tin can as heatshield.

> If I was using p port exhaust I would mount individual mufflers directly to each port, inner pipe same size same as port, would look like 2 cans protruding from side of engine, connect short tailpipes (same volume as inner perforated pipe) as close to engine end of outer pipe as possible to exit cowl. Idea is to send sound waves straight back to where they come from without restricting gas flow.
> Probably as clear as mud, but my 2 cents worth, works a treat.
> Cheers
> Andrew Martin



On Oct 27, 2023, at 8:47 AM, Doug Lomheim <dlomheim@aol.com> wrote:

Hi Group:  This winter I need to finalize the fabrication of an exhaust system for my 86 13B.  I searched the archives and found some were working on perfecting their prior installations due to cracking issues over time, etc.  I therefore was wondering if anyone had any updates on how well the last iteration of their muffler was holding up, and what they’d suggest as a starting point if in my shoes (beginning with a clean slate).  

thanks!  

Doug 

RV-9A / 13B (Tommy James engine in Glastar from 2006).

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