X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-KAS-Score: 0 [] From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pl1-f170.google.com ([209.85.214.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.4.0) with ESMTPS id 2551929 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 19:06:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.170; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pl1-f170.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1c87a85332bso34130515ad.2 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 16:06:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1698620774; x=1699225574; darn=lancaironline.net; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=FMZp4iQIZoMMRQQTw6UVgvtLII+PZcsMgEZlmY3cGBI=; b=faZbq8mFr3qvk8R2ZoJ/lg7BVah6M0zdIdW3t/4Gg2suzInZNi9TgJTuObCFRcLpKW ND+P3iUzYKQFKb2E95T6faAROhXpB5JegOUZ3jT3YyVFfBp93Y3cgZtxZG+IHTLRZCmm ZVoFAreaXRDVAh9N+OQgV/7ypkzueRyh3dRyfSbtH8l3fFtslAFHpKwj8lJqSoANgE8c 6GxKkW7tXYlIWKxCSjugtvm1k1XDtrWNT/H8jITK+LpWrPt7qA0HxF3WtVe3tcfULovu tk9ufSYGI0244RV1DlvlX2QFLGoLrBtK3pYkgdsX72qSYt90XS5gXykstEBOz6vyVXhi 2eAA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698620774; x=1699225574; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=FMZp4iQIZoMMRQQTw6UVgvtLII+PZcsMgEZlmY3cGBI=; b=JIXPF6PLO+sVRYlL+YYeL9EYAjvJRrw058voKNE38HIN7reQ6JpnQRFr/Ef/a3k9yn tnNgGni7gy2x4fzFPznB8SWurYFT94FYP+vzpERcBwD46aG3PA8UJMf4kBsXgvq71UgI jvaiAfWJwzDgy0Wtx5UlsG3wLkyxgIcRV5GV849Wxo3WjuAMH/6fn3pn8OBNNHL8DdWo RXht1xIuF8/TibtGCU4CDcA3/xDuAFGeYBauu32FTYrL0qLLgK56Jh0DYPklEC9w/dbG nt6rnkd7lEijlsfntPvaGemPut/fufkgaHM+w5JCUo4RLGFy0qTuGi1MVAxvpSu6P7oX AkZA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzYzk+FiypbOPrX5K1MKsPsusvjQpLfKgX2bIaOA8lO2ZuDsX+j 5P23wqloiPDoz2yU85u5L2T7daH4UgUnKw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHOaqEG/OQzyPcli8qRO1yGt4cH7ysTItV631PZlraVsrtXGkQhCyD15196WnW4cKxc6yzK4w== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:f688:b0:1cc:53db:f53a with SMTP id l8-20020a170902f68800b001cc53dbf53amr324714plg.8.1698620773671; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 16:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from smtpclient.apple (220-235-72-153.dyn.iinet.net.au. [220.235.72.153]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b14-20020a170903228e00b001b8b1f6619asm1112954plh.75.2023.10.29.16.06.12 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Oct 2023 16:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.100.2.1.4\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Updates on Muffler Experiences? Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 07:05:58 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.100.2.1.4) Hi Andrew Do you have a photo of your engine/mufler? Steve Izett > On 29 Oct 2023, at 10:31=E2=80=AFpm, Andrew Martin = andrew@martinag.com.au wrote: >=20 > Hi Doug,=20 > My setup is for a Renesis so bit different to an 86 13b, what I found = worked well is a short & compact muffler, all homemade, a 60mm = perforated ss tube welded to the mazda renesis exhaust manifold that was = shortened as much as possible. I perforated the 60mm tube with 10mm = drilled holes, enough so area of drilled holes is same as pipe inlet. A = 100mm ss tube covers the 60mm tube and outlet of 100mm is at same end as = inlet of 60mm, this is important to send sound waves back to source = (works similar theory to ANR headset apparently). muffler is short, = approx 150mm to keep it rigid & fit the space next to the psru. end = plates of muffler were cut from 6mm plate & fully welded to both inner & = outer tubes and covered with lightweight tin can as heatshield. >=20 > If I was using p port exhaust I would mount individual mufflers = directly to each port, inner pipe same size same as port, would look = like 2 cans protruding from side of engine, connect short tailpipes = (same volume as inner perforated pipe) as close to engine end of outer = pipe as possible to exit cowl. Idea is to send sound waves straight back = to where they come from without restricting gas flow. > Probably as clear as mud, but my 2 cents worth, works a treat. > Cheers > Andrew Martin