From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fuel pressure trending lower.
Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 09:01:28 +0800
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Hi Finn

I had from memory a 393 fail. Can=E2=80=99t recall the symptoms sorry.

I test before takeoff and then run both pumps below 2ooo ft incase of =
failure.
I plan to instal a comparator relay board in fuel pressure circuit to =
automatically bring on backup pump and failure indicator.
So testing before flight becomes - switch off and back on main engine =
pump. This will save amps and wear of backup pump.
When I switch off a pump at WOT the engine dies pretty much =
instantaneously and don't want to be fiddling with a restart in the =
Glasair which glides like a brick with the gear out in the breeze.

Regards =20
Steve Izett


> On 21 May 2022, at 10:30 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net =
<flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
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> Recently I noticed my fuel pressure being low. Noticed because engine =
did not come up in power when advancing to full throttle. Noticed =
mixture real lean. Checking fuel pressure as low as 28 psi (normally 35 =
and up to 40 at full throttle).
>=20
> Going over my engine logs since first flight I now see that fuel =
pressure has been trending lower through each flight -- more pronounced =
on longer flights (40+ minutes). More and more pronounced over the =
months and became really noticeable over last month. Could explain why =
mixture tuning appeared to have changed. Nice to have engine logs from =
practically each flight.
>=20
> But why? Pump getting weaker?
>=20
> My primary fuel pump is a GSL414. I figured it was wasted energy to =
push way more fuel than needed through the pressure regulator back to =
the tank.
>=20
> My secondary (backup) pump is a GSL393. When turning that on, fuel =
pressure comes back up to where it needs to be.
>=20
> Anyone have experience with failing or weak EFI pumps, particularly =
the GSL414?
>=20
> Finn
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi =
Finn<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I had from =
memory a 393 fail. Can=E2=80=99t recall the symptoms sorry.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I test before takeoff =
and then run both pumps below 2ooo ft incase of failure.</div><div =
class=3D"">I plan to instal a comparator relay board in fuel pressure =
circuit to automatically bring on backup pump and failure =
indicator.</div><div class=3D"">So testing before flight becomes - =
switch off and back on main engine pump. This will save amps and wear of =
backup pump.</div><div class=3D"">When I switch off a pump at WOT the =
engine dies pretty much instantaneously and don't want to be fiddling =
with a restart in the Glasair which glides like a brick with the gear =
out in the breeze.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Regards &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Steve Izett</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 21 =
May 2022, at 10:30 pm, Finn Lassen <a =
href=3D"mailto:finn.lassen@verizon.net" =
class=3D"">finn.lassen@verizon.net</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net" =
class=3D"">flyrotary@lancaironline.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
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charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">
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  <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" class=3D""><p =
class=3D"">Recently I noticed my fuel pressure being low. Noticed =
because
      engine did not come up in power when advancing to full throttle.
      Noticed mixture real lean. Checking fuel pressure as low as 28 psi
      (normally 35 and up to 40 at full throttle).</p><p class=3D"">Going =
over my engine logs since first flight I now see that fuel
      pressure has been trending lower through each flight -- more
      pronounced on longer flights (40+ minutes). More and more
      pronounced over the months and became really noticeable over last
      month. Could explain why mixture tuning <i class=3D"">appeared</i> =
to have
      changed. Nice to have engine logs from practically each flight.<br =
class=3D"">
      <br class=3D"">
      But why? Pump getting weaker?</p><p class=3D"">My primary fuel =
pump is a GSL414. I figured it was wasted energy
      to push way more fuel than needed through the pressure regulator
      back to the tank.</p><p class=3D"">My secondary (backup) pump is a =
GSL393. When turning that on,
      fuel pressure comes back up to where it needs to be.</p><p =
class=3D"">Anyone have experience with failing or weak EFI pumps,
      particularly the GSL414?</p><p class=3D"">Finn<br class=3D"">
    </p>
  </div>

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