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[220.235.102.124]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id lk13sm8181841pjb.43.2020.11.01.06.28.30 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Nov 2020 06:28:31 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Sump Breather? Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 22:28:27 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Thanks Lynn and Jeff. Appreciated. My vent is probably only 3/16 inch and It just had me = thinking! Cheers Steve > On 1 Nov 2020, at 9:01 pm, lehanover lehanover@aol.com = wrote: >=20 > Crank case pressure is a function of the volume of combustion gasses = escaping past the side seals and through the end gaps at the side seal = ends and corner seal fitments.=20 > =20 > There will always be some flow even on a new engine. So the trick is = to keep the outbound flow speed low so as to keep escaping oil droplets = falling back into the engine rather than being expelled. In racing we = are required to have a catch bottle with a minimum volume of 1 quart. A = well done rotary has a remarkable low flow rate and can get along fine = with a small diameter vent tube. Not a big problem on the street.=20 > In the aircraft the flow will be higher as the engine is usually run = at or near full throttle for long periods.=20 > So run it hard and look into a catch bottle to see how much oil is = being lost. A few drops to nothing is ideal.=20 > Most can be vented into the intake flow but that will not show up any = problems. Every landing needs a oil level check. If the breathing is = restricted, pressure may push out a seal or turn a seal lip over = backwards. Followed by much oil loss. I shorten the seal springs and = build seal retainers on each engine. You can also buy double > lip seals with one lip facing in and out. Keeps dust out of the seal = lips.=20 > =20 > This is seldom a problem and did not occur on showroom stock Mazda = rotaries that were turned up to high RPM. So probably not a factor. > Lynn E. Hanover =20 > =20 > In a message dated 11/1/2020 4:57:53 AM Atlantic Standard Time, = flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: > =20 > Hi Lynn EH and all > =20 > What size breather from the sump is required? > Is this the same for all the various models (particularly the = Renesis)? > We have the OEM sump but removed the plastic manifold and put a filler = cap with small breather on the top of the steel vertical tube that runs = down into the pan. > What would happen if this breather was too small? > =20 > Thanks > =20 > Steve Izett > Perth Western Australia. > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html