X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PbaBeRpd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=pD3Rormsref9cAhgJAGCSw==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=JZygid9Izu4A:10 a=y4yBn9ojGxQA:10 a=RG6hcgD4AAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=fR6g6WPwAAAA:8 a=77Ev_sEZUl_Xwrk06ggA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=9UOkgIfivw6sJKhwZtUA:9 a=anHHsX1ZHfTTvsCf:21 a=N6I4LDFSjv0JWTRmzZqO:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=pVye9tYEF4-vSOQs7cMh:22 From: "Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com" Received: from mail-lj1-f175.google.com ([209.85.208.175] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 601599 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:18:54 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.208.175; envelope-from=keltro@gmail.com Received: by mail-lj1-f175.google.com with SMTP id i10so6847018ljn.2 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:18:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=49rsB7rBmNKvKy5HJOuLMruIFOaogwMnpl1KTjhBe4Y=; b=H035RobKDAQwp4c/MYR6Dzc5ym8Rf7DJMwnxhUycOUsfLToqoGty9h6WMTEfXOjWYL WNbVZCFEI93KIU/np9MK4aQrh9/lgQmAhYyeH+MDK1exMeyv3c+jNmdqXcs2bhrMnM9W GuxemP6EnJXrSqbIXl+iST8xhMgXjgd/t+7sTzb5ZE+D+83KuQ3QpbUcM/suiz+xuwRn 9bBi21vWna2Vp53y/emT2oGSdNIq9epbk7WJ4otGdeePJQDAFTbDL+iDDQ0CrN7wMytd 50qAzx5wsMnaa6ql1Fpl7Z81t0td1SSYWo9Y5jY4x5KHFLVFGhG9tgzJsxwiLVPN1fgU RTgA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=49rsB7rBmNKvKy5HJOuLMruIFOaogwMnpl1KTjhBe4Y=; b=TeUGVzDVLSXWxcTh4uTx9uCtCjFBuKa1ouATffFDuUNLxaKSjSDtmS25kwvwthXZ87 j0x+j7Ru712e58v8ksNybnBz4I6sw4jzIGWILoC2nymCh6PohpEwloHduFFo9D4mRtUn 2cDwSRoejklYtgTRzAHEtH6HBRzcSLjmiTs8btbUkJMa9FhV2xST9RWwWNUMWx54kNU3 x0in72RcdGoFscn5GUJOaHCSuOGq8w07KxqGHtfGTIE3vVIRDVxzqwSnsudRca1LKu3H adn2Hzv6EI0CeCyW7Tztd8yqSrwiYSITI83Sy4sLkNqBDYdsuyQfJ7JMMPXFzZXmIuTd En2w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5325366NXsNJNMDN8Oly6Ko+4DPfiu0Y1Np/54miGIgl24L9X0/H Jgxz4pE5fG71kCBNRkIoB5Mg/J2Xso3zZp8hLF1pg/1J X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwlUaVwv709M2qtbT+i6YkN3FPTl+vKUA8/BF914d0uA0hnD2v+4dJygudd8Wah6a22Qgnyp/t6kY4K0/Yjys0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:284:: with SMTP id b4mr2576373ljo.278.1596500316635; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:18:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 19:16:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbos for 13b's in aircraft To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000041c7bc05ac023287" --00000000000041c7bc05ac023287 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Group, I have no running experience yet but when I purchased my turbo I settled on a "Turbonetics" TO4-E50 with a 1.15 a/r turbine housing so as to not get into any overspeed problems..........FWIW http://www.turboneticsinc.com/industrial/product/turbochargers-0 Kelly troyer On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:51 PM 12348ung@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Dave, > > Just how much extra Hp do you think you got withy the > upgraded Turbo? I will be happy with 250 to 300 HP from the stock > Hitachi. Am I off with the fairys having this expectation? > > Neil. > > > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Monday, August 3, 2020 4:07 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Turbos for 13b's in aircraft > > > > James, > > I had my stock housing upgraded to TO4 by BNR Supercars. They also have > options for the Renisis. http://bnrsupercars.com/ Cost is $950 for the > level 4 upgrade. Makes a nice tight fit. I had a big discussion about > Turbo maps that you can find in the archives. I settled on a TO4-H or > TO4-E50 to top out around 350hp at sea level. > > > > Attached is a turbo excel spreadsheet that you can use to evaluate variou= s > parameters in selecting a turbo. > > > > Dave Leonard > > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 12:07 AM 12348ung@gmail.com < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > James, > > 2 flying that I know of =E2=80=93 Todd Bartrim and Dave leonnard. Thi= nk they > have the standard RX7 Hitachi turbo. Just been around the world trying t= o > get an affordable turbo for my renesis which does not exist if you talk = to > drag racers etc., Quotes between $4500 and $6500. Bought 2 hitachi turb= os > for $125 and one looks set to go while the other will need bearings. > > There was an offer of one in south Africa for freight > only. Would be a bargain. Just hooking mine up now, but as usual much t= o > go that I have not factored as usual. Finally found an intercooler that > may fit. > > Best, Neil. > > > > > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Sunday, August 2, 2020 11:48 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Turbos for 13b's in aircraft > > > > Does anyone out there have any recommendations for a turbo (brand and > size) for a 13b in an aircraft? 300-400 hp range. Reasons or experience i= s > appreciated! Auto racers have their needs but are different from > aircraft... or so I've heard. My 13b's are nearing the decision stage for > turbos. Thanks, James Whitehurst > > --00000000000041c7bc05ac023287 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Group,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I have no running= experience yet but when I purchased my turbo I settled on a "Turbonet= ics" TO4-E50 with a 1.15 a/r turbine housing so as to not get into=C2= =A0
any overspeed problems..........FWIW

http://www.turboneticsinc.com/industrial/product/turbochargers-0=C2= =A0=C2=A0

Kelly troyer

On Mon, Aug 3, 202= 0 at 4:51 PM 12348u= ng@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Dave,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Just how much extra Hp do = you think you got withy the upgraded Turbo?=C2=A0 I will be happy with 250 = to 300 HP from the stock Hitachi.=C2=A0 Am I off with the fairys having thi= s expectation?

Neil.

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From: Rotary motors in aircraf= t <flyr= otary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 4:0= 7 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net><= br>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbos for 13b's in aircraft<= u>

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James,

I had m= y stock housing upgraded to TO4 by BNR Supercars.=C2=A0 They also have opti= ons for the Renisis.=C2=A0http://bnrsupercars.com/=C2=A0Cost is $950 for the level 4 upgrad= e.=C2=A0 Makes a nice tight fit.=C2=A0 I had a big discussion about Turbo m= aps that you can find in the archives.=C2=A0 I settled on a TO4-H or TO4-E5= 0 to top out around 350hp at sea level.

=C2=A0

A= ttached is a turbo excel spreadsheet that you can use to evaluate various p= arameters in selecting a turbo.

=C2=A0

Dave Leon= ard

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On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 12:07 AM 12348ung@gmail.com &= lt;flyrota= ry@lancaironline.net> wrote:

James,<= u>

=C2=A0 2 flying that I know of =E2=80=93 Todd=C2=A0 Bartrim a= nd Dave leonnard.=C2=A0 Think they have the standard RX7 Hitachi turbo.=C2= =A0 Just been around the world trying to get an affordable=C2=A0 turbo for = my renesis which does not exist if you talk to drag racers etc.,=C2=A0 Quot= es between $4500 and $6500.=C2=A0 Bought 2 hitachi turbos for $125 and one = looks set to go while the other will need bearings.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There was an o= ffer of one in south Africa for freight only.=C2=A0 Would be a bargain.=C2= =A0 Just hooking mine up now, but as usual much to go that I have not facto= red as usual.=C2=A0 Finally found an intercooler that may fit.

Best,=C2=A0 Neil.

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= Does anyone out there have any recommendations for a turbo (brand and size)= for a 13b in an aircraft? 300-400 hp range. Reasons or experience is appre= ciated! Auto racers have their needs but are different from aircraft... or = so I've heard. My 13b's are nearing the decision stage for turbos. = Thanks, James Whitehurst



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