X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PbaBeRpd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=pQmW8xTXUmpwAjW+26JVYQ==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=A-0mRrAPPO4A:10 a=_RQrkK6FrEwA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=S0im63tr-RZJcvM3BzUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Ba4J8b9NRPxDoxaUomQA:9 a=vvZfwofiy0zuaH_-:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 From: "Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com" Received: from mail-io1-f42.google.com ([209.85.166.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 569354 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 15:14:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.166.42; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-io1-f42.google.com with SMTP id k23so14758810iom.10 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 12:14:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=KEtKNXtf1Rg45qJp83IUg7U9MRmiJZbyniVFY7eLpUc=; b=sVT82Vtzadfaf8UeINoo5lS47oFSKc/RgHPIjKOZm4WuC5tl8FTo5ouv8oXpXRA5kK f1FRsCRr/PQSxUuRx8Dg6eOJJjrhJ+UXSEepPdmUJrnSr01gVPdcNIm6OPgr/06pNKv8 ckU2BTtdfu0j4rhubLl/lmwYnihp5P7XPXGPTpZoJ+LeD6IHPdCGNkU1JXm/Ex31+Vut TxW/4yUhYwgioGaaGxceJWNmuKHnxmWTM5EfitWt1twS8B14clV4vsH/z9esPAh1YKRC alHEH3z+hyY1Gik7MWz1euyXcFxLvmDvLDikvLcrKOT6q4ulB0NC/tJ0dNRFWBwebokC 9ieg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=KEtKNXtf1Rg45qJp83IUg7U9MRmiJZbyniVFY7eLpUc=; b=rT1OkWhUtO1BUY140NZmiqMhHKLjqJzz41TgGvQ9e+/mcx7/r6zqxLePqVLCRW+ZCI ScTo5gaYDdNeVI1mg3Xlt7qETbGZyVYCF0/ReruxHT7trm41dZ657HdZRfvvM21Rgv7Q yV1u1UyPXM8iAylZKO0ozsfou9JnjKLyO+A3vIt1uK+QcJJhdwdE5usCFzF1yBFJpRbe 6FeTVNts9g6hE5j9BSFQyVALI8SWEN/L+u6DQ84Q+qo+WG3ID9IeS2rqg/D8AkKF8sVJ YQG+eyJc0OLUo3TAJikIg7mkAVQSScGAZ9G0DSCNc3+TNHmLlzbMHPE31wMTtjk806pC dRDg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5301A20IZ63IRNOlXLoul3eAPNsuABQcEWzcRaAiOYiroE/LoJIF HG9O3BBS1uTk2T+kcoxDOfr+TyK6BMiR+HCBnbEoZplB X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzUQxZIcIIe2eq+tlIJKuySHTVqNCnxnQdcWAldW9GcbSnNQbcmSDLnAOlsK9+ztUeJuCPWO00iA29Yfkum8d0= X-Received: by 2002:a02:c903:: with SMTP id t3mr22190875jao.30.1595790823548; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 12:13:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 14:13:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Undeliverable mail: Fwd: Undeliverable mail: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing-pics To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002c6acc05ab5d017d" --0000000000002c6acc05ab5d017d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 1:20 PM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Why the RX-8 Rotary engine is AWFUL > > Opinion about the RX8 "Renesis" engines vs The Earlier 13BREW / 13B / 20B > Cosmo Engines from "Down Under".......... > > Kelly Troyer > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Kelly Troyer >>>>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >>>>> Cc: >>>>> Bcc: >>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:34:33 -0500 >>>>> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific >>>>> 13B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing-pics >>>>> >>>>> Group, >>>>> This is what we are trying to do............This is junk O-540 >>>>> crankcase with the "Vans" RV10 mount ring bolted to the top mount "Ears" >>>>> and a RX8 Renesis front >>>>> cover and waterpump in proper position of the O-540 crankshaft shaft >>>>> to see if the Mazda 13B / 20B will fit in the confines of the mount >>>>> ring............The alternator >>>>> mount on top of the Renesis cover has been removed and alternator will >>>>> have to be relocated............Hope the photo is small enough to send to >>>>> the forum.......... >>>>> >>>>> Best >>>>> Kelly Troyer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > Kinda hard to assign them any credibility when within the 1st couple of minutes they either ignore (or aren't even aware of?) the fact that the Renesis has one of those 'small' exhaust ports on each plate. Of course, everything's a compromise, but I'll take the quieter, cooler exhaust, along with the 10-15 lbs less weight and an additional 20-30 HP over the best stock NA 13B. Obviously, the 13B can be pumped up a lot more with mods, but it's hardly fair to compare the engine to the twin turbo version of the 13B. I really wish they'd kept the 3rd gen body & inserted the Renesis engine. If they had, I'd go looking for one as a daily driver. Charlie --0000000000002c6acc05ab5d017d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 1:20 PM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Why the RX-8 Rotary engine is AWFUL

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Opinion about the RX8 "Renesis" engin= es=C2=A0 vs The Earlier 13BREW / 13B / 20B Cosmo Engines from "Down Un= der"..........
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Kelly Troyer=C2= =A0
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From:=C2=A0Kelly Troyer &= lt;keltro@gmail.com>
To:=C2=A0Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net><= br>Cc:=C2=A0
Bcc:=C2=A0
Date:=C2=A0Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:34:33 -0500Subject:=C2=A0Re: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13= B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing-pics

Group,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This is what we are= trying to do............This is junk O-540 crankcase with the "Vans&q= uot;=C2=A0 RV10 mount ring bolted to the top mount "Ears" and a R= X8 Renesis front
cover and waterpump in proper position of the O-= 540 crankshaft shaft to see if the Mazda 13B / 20B will fit in the confines= of the mount ring............The=C2=A0 alternator=C2=A0
mount on= top=C2=A0of the Renesis cover has been removed and alternator will have to= be relocated............Hope the photo is small enough to send to the foru= m..........

Best
Kelly Troyer
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Kinda har= d to assign them any credibility when within the 1st couple of minutes they= either ignore (or aren't even aware of?) the fact that the Renesis has= one of those 'small' exhaust ports on each plate. Of course, every= thing's a compromise, but I'll take the quieter, cooler exhaust, al= ong with the 10-15 lbs less weight and an additional 20-30 HP over the best= stock NA 13B. Obviously, the 13B can be pumped up a lot more with mods, bu= t it's hardly fair to compare the engine to the twin turbo version of t= he 13B.=C2=A0

I really wish they'd kept the 3rd gen body & i= nserted the Renesis engine. If they had, I'd go looking for one as a da= ily driver.
Charlie
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