X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PbaBeRpd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CD5TnntNgZSTsHQ6nLFA4Q==:117 a=xycr6CVXJRVtFs4WRGOeRA==:17 a=_RQrkK6FrEwA:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=MpMq80ISoEPR8W4TLJEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=UN4EzXa9xCJ0Mo-q7xoA:9 a=XDdWf9ZYmSKEYqXe:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=6VlIyEUom7LUIeUMNQJH:22 From: "Marc Wiese cardmarc@charter.net" Received: from [47.43.20.28] (HELO impout004.msg.chrl.nc.charter.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 551120 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:15:45 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=47.43.20.28; envelope-from=cardmarc@charter.net Received: from HomeDesktop ([97.94.202.172]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id xtzMj0L84wzF8xtzMjju0P; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:15:28 +0000 Authentication-Results: charter.net; none X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=SdVDicZu c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=xycr6CVXJRVtFs4WRGOeRA==:117 a=xycr6CVXJRVtFs4WRGOeRA==:17 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=MpMq80ISoEPR8W4TLJEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=UN4EzXa9xCJ0Mo-q7xoA:9 a=XDdWf9ZYmSKEYqXe:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Al's Tangential Muffler Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 10:15:27 -0500 Message-ID: <042201d65f71$c3fa43f0$4beecbd0$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0423_01D65F47.DB243BF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdZfcaQvrfRznLudQO2onGhwvuDiXg== Content-Language: en-us X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfAOd9q+KbM8xkfDqTLG2CB8V4ZljoWvTDocmWGxi/hn0nQ2gZBzS2UQm+XcnWB2M/FB+td0zFyd66VDDd19cAgDbJV8xFLSYJfFWQ4eKNqtGoK8QZ7sF AKbu8w7AZ2+3eNIlEEjfHMFBoSzFrAIiN7JpdwLmIZRoYEI8fDstl70b/Xh9YBfA+8oK0jZI44oHoA== This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0423_01D65F47.DB243BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also found this message--- M From: Rotary motors in aircraft On Behalf Of Al Gietzen Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:49 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tangential Muffler Al, I'd love to have a good tangential solution. Mistral had developed one before they declared bankruptcy. But, their engineer told me that they were loosing at least 5 HP with it. So, if I am ignorant, I am happy to be corrected. You could very well be right; but am I willing to give up 5 hp for a reliable compact way to a quiet engine? Yup! I presume that you have shared your design before? Can I find in in the archives? I am not a welder, so I have to hire any welding that needs to be done, so the cost of an Inconel device will be quite pricy, I presume. Should be in the archives. If not, I think I've scanned my drawings and have them stored somewhere. You'll need a good welder and some money. I think mine was $1950 for the 3-rotor; and it has a few details like internal vanes. The drawings will cost only $600 (ju-u-u-st kidding). Al ------=_NextPart_000_0423_01D65F47.DB243BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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From:<= /b> = Rotary motors in aircraft On Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: = Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:49 PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: Tangential Muffler

Al,

I'd love to have a good = tangential solution. Mistral had developed one before they = declared bankruptcy. But, their engineer told me that they were = loosing at least 5 HP with it. So, if I am ignorant, I am happy to = be corrected.

Yo= u could very well be right; but am I willing to give up 5 hp for a = reliable compact way to a quiet engine? = Yup!

I presume that you have = shared your design before? Can I find in in the archives? I = am not a welder, so I have to hire any welding that needs to be done, so = the cost of an Inconel device will be quite pricy, I = presume.

&n= bsp;

Sh= ould be in the archives. If not, I think I’ve scanned my drawings = and have them stored somewhere. You’ll need a good welder and some = money. I think mine was $1950 for the 3-rotor; and it has a few details = like internal vanes. The drawings will cost only $600 (ju-u-u-st = kidding).

&n= bsp;

Al=

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