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[49.196.29.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j17sm6320174pjy.22.2020.06.19.19.49.18 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Jun 2020 19:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Modifying the EC2 Staging point Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 10:49:15 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Thanks Jeff and all Last flight (after playing around with Mode #1 tuning on the ground) the = Primaries (4 port Red) were saturating at various times, indicated as = Steve Boese reminded me, by the loss of RPM readouts (EM3 & Dynon = Skyview) sensed from the Primary Injector line. Do others with small Primaries have this issue or is it a Tuning issue? ie. Getting modes # 3,6,2 right will spread the load between the Pri and = Secondaries so the primaries don=E2=80=99t saturate? I do have another set of the larger (Blue) secondary injectors that = could replace the small red Primaries giving us 4 equal injectors, if = this was helpful. Do injectors have a sweet spot or better spray pattern at a particular = band of duty cycle? We have an electric inflight adjustable prop which may make a difference = from those with experience with FP props. On another note, I rechecked max fuel flow at static ~6800 rpm and 0.92 = Lambda which I think is best power. Fuel Flow peeks at 16.4 Gal/hr. It's a Renesis 4 Port with the stock exhaust header and resonator and a = modified stock intake manifold which is basically shortened from 23.6=E2=80= =9D to 18.1=E2=80=9D.=20 I had noted down that Tracy recommended 16=E2=80=9D and Paul L 20=E2=80=9D= for the intake length. What kind of hp do you think this might be producing and what are others = seeing? How could we determine peak power/rpm? Could we use the airframe as a = dyno in some way? What about at WOT clean air and level, and adjust prop pitch/rpm for = maximum airspeed. I suppose is we kept the mixture constant we could look for highest fuel = flow. I=E2=80=99m trying ti ascertain the best rpm for takeoff. At the moment I=E2=80=99m leaving the prop set fine and rpm is peaking = at ~7500 on climb out. Your expertise and insights would be greatly appreciated. Steve Izett > On 19 Jun 2020, at 9:37 pm, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com = wrote: >=20 > I don't think you're missing anything Steve - my EC2 is the same : = fixed at 20" ... > It was originally 15.5" and could be set anywhere ... but after sent = back to Tracy it is now 20" and cannot be changed. > Jeff=20 >=20 > Hi people. >=20 > I did some tuning this morning. > But I couldn't get the staging point to change. >=20 > I reset all modes to default. > The built in default Stage Point on my EC2 seems to be ~20" >=20 > Ran engine at the desired MAP, selected Mode #7 (I was aiming at = 15.5") and pressed the Store Button. > I also tried holding it for a few seconds. > Staging Point stayed at ~20". > What am I missing here? >=20 > Steve Izett >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html