Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #65854
From: Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 debugging. Code wanted.
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2020 09:04:44 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Tracy retired for real some years ago. He made all the PSRU specs and EC/EM programming public domain. He's been tinkering with SpeedUnio, but nothing serious.
I got an EC3 board from him and sort of figured I would learn the program and maybe be able to provide some support for it. Turns out to be tougher and time consuming than I thought. I'm not really a motor head like Tracy. He can listen to an engine running and pretty much diagnose what's going on.
Tracy's thinking that getting some of the SpeedUnio boards and TunerStudio would be a lot easier for someone to work with. Yeah, one would have to add some relays to switch between the boards (if want redundancy) and add mixture tuning to the SppedUnio software. The EC3 is just more convenient (if programmed correctly).

RV-8 repairs were almost complete last time he was in Colorado but Van's had sent the wrong skin. By the time he got the right one it was time to head back to Shady Bend.

Finn

On 6/13/2020 2:10 AM, Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Finn;?? I'm sorry I can't help you with the code, but how is Tracy? He's been off-line since after his RV8 accident but I'm quite curious how that rebuild is going.
I'll always regret never making it down to the Rotary Roundup at Shady Bend. I always figured there was always next year. Until there wasn't. So I think once this whole current mess is behind us I'm going to make every effort to make it down to the fly-in at Slobovia Outernational and meet a few other rotorheads, to see what they're doing.
?? But tell Tracy that his presence??on the list is missed and we'd appreciate some updates on his rebuild, even if they are not yet rotary related. Any plane that is powered by a rotary is of interest to me even if he's still doing airframe repairs.

Todd Bartrim


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 3:46 PM Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Yesterday Tracy took pity on me and came down and did some troubleshooting.

At first listen he said it sounded like I was only running on one rotor.
We ruled that out by disconnecting power to rotor 1 coils, then rotor 2
coils. Engine didn't stop.

Tracy said it sounded like timing was way late - not the sharp pop he'd
expect from the rotary exhaust. (I would never have heard that).

Rechecked CAS wiring - OK.

Found and marked TDC on starter ring gear with white paint in between
two teeth, and put on a timing light. Timing was off and random to the
point he only got a glimpse of the mark once.

He thought he heard it run right once at very low RPM when I pulled back
on throttle to shut down.

I removed the EC3 and he took it home. He confirmed that at very low
idle RPMs it works right (timing is calculated differently there) but at
higher RPMs coils never got the signal to fire! Only reason they fired
at all is safety built into coils (and EC3) that fires themselves after
max allowed dwell time.

He gave me a couple of hardware changes to make: clamping circuit on CAS
input and shorting a diode from A supply to the Vcc3 supply. Doubtful
that they will handle my issue.

So now it's up to me to debug the program. We verified the essential
configuration bits. He lent me an Arduino based RX-8 CAS simulator (I'll
post info on how to make your own later.)

The lazy person's (me) way to find out what changed is to compare the
source code from when it last worked (for a Renesis) and the current
source code.

If anyone has a copy of the EC3CL8.ASM file from several years ago, I
would appreciate it.

However, it's probably not a bad idea to have someone other than Tracy
who's also familiar with the EC3 program. So I might as well dig in.

I'll keep you briefed on what we find.

Finn


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