X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=RZTu9Glv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=yBYOvFYEUxHbKC8u3BZfgg==:117 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=nTHF0DUjJn0A:10 a=KKpdMx72GkcA:10 a=iGP6D3Om0yvICi4WDjEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 From: "Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net" Received: from sonic301-32.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.184.201] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 363624 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:46:19 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.163.184.201; envelope-from=finn.lassen@verizon.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=verizon.net; s=a2048; t=1592001963; bh=rn5p9sH+2gyxNnVVoBuljeCMV9PLbPi5g9XR/ucJgGI=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:References:From:Subject; b=G9sHqdS3Csfm+gPAPKKDmnsTpFtNuFPAis+BPxuuS2r5aTTaRCnXlccZHx50E6gBjWxL42LpyMRmUCPWM83Ig1ueIA3hTQ1r/3MRX9epWhRwH4SH0OUtPAEnY/lfwg817rmTkmen3Da3SaAtYRnW6tmK2VbaejmZnL1VpSRr8EPiuxkiNkze6ROTdLdCNjuo6Gm22wiz8WDhFUmnXbnnFLFioLIh22O+9SFUxb+A7iwvmg4Qs+Sat2mW+G6nMq8NALJ4XohZ4DXuHIBz4PyOFl/8MOLD8I1GesdJxkaqctGthq8Edo7Bi6HtdBznw6I+d6iJ+MuDQ5KqWMfqi/8XxA== X-YMail-OSG: U0zAQsgVM1n97yZ3hFznxqjCzv3Fyvsc2KWlLkV0f4FjWlKCCmZi8Drz6BA2.8l yyBTpBBVY8hRbkcjxOJsXVySlnw9lTR3bAeojD7c6OKhy8rB.BJsZuOFoyb1.6dRBuSbAZ7zMvB8 .OchYfQOpwDYVjbLFvjlrJSDyzmgJVZpkXcxKTCZlZ8.tXpWBQ8i8Vj2e_wSorNHNC5jZR_qS5Rn l8PI4dNsLEugyOHvphy_5gSnty3_xvNRpJJjQ4im7z3jwCIE6iun0dowR8ix8wcpUyj6ok3QTVta D9FwzCR7Pr6LnGExNn8M69W1w.qbcCyhxvSoUc1rQoQuG._BtthqhiySsN.T803klgWdOZFvzdnP _ElzULzrDgL48KtxcPrOLSyiK776aVN9TuE2O3KpPREJeOu57_ClkPSiItqh6omdH8g_Ju3bAgy5 QpKpIFrwlOJqPXXaMIY7b1p2q4n2inQPZ49mNJMEnTMtC.jO578MF4x1CKUI9NWbQkAxhhTiS.uy 1X9T9YFgTtS_Qif54JEGXJFpWimOtITlH3w8AhhfgM3cQ2TPuXBv_dCgYJg0dQ02NMMqKif57IMq 3hw3ohhyCj9SgiQnUSF17UCgBn3rflO0BI04XeCLlPE5Z4S8Lz0rMmdqljFlAtlCiYf59FDV03ui 2VYUX.bV_kKH9lGiFu_DGGWqWQHoGz56j2z7pN74x3pqEQ1Qbrl1jR0ZcVncVQb.mGRlk1jczYQk H4b3OgRbyEuqffsXzGb2ksGBGI0yfO8lR1KKZd7OHZREfQ5OLiRfDbt6OzBwtBvqmSlaSCwWBI7w fgQl8SeTxLCFhOUu2zBm1qFZW1wvWIybkIjwh3moCS24KHhhv0auQdcZgNy4tms.ckxQd9VhVfpu 9w3SVsoIibUam06QUw2awtYkJCTTme9ljvWvnbvMBkKM17N6.cAB_VB2RgszKIbynzwgmpOWAbEa u8Mwxu0Ni8rLvs5vYkq_kPrPomaF2VUhrdedU9Fd.2MmlPSZ9FQ24cgjg50K4.9nznY42_8H0IXy 1cVTzlXDQ1mHauF3AAyUIapFvf5LLTSoxIo_QIHoJYloycwW_Ir5d3DJBbmFk3f6.9C1GCYbFrQ1 hrXFiW66fSkQVfPEpQ0YF3_50CW3UE48oeXdSmQEpuQtmk5aesgimCks4SFc3hefumYRRiKqslbf 4iW5WqMBJTPyWkv9nBabjeL2Ubk2f9H4QRs6BK.eusm2eN0n7F03HU7peJE1r0o99nNvzKR6omIu mlXaxoy2vhUmF5QWYqM2hFZfchKhkVLLrtDwkiYr.wRNC7VYSlZZw0nIb9b92Jh4oRXRTaMSOD28 T9wndpTn6ocffnKqn6cZ0RC9933CorIxICNUgK0oteWJYA9vaZ_Vc03_qaet5C0pi8JO.4VmQ Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 22:46:03 +0000 Received: by smtp401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 62746204e379540fd324409b19cd0aa9; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 22:46:00 +0000 (UTC) To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: EC3 debugging. Code wanted. Message-ID: <38c75e17-23b2-8534-6e74-f4b9d49ec47b@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:45:57 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US References: <38c75e17-23b2-8534-6e74-f4b9d49ec47b.ref@verizon.net> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16119 hermes_aol Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.7) Content-Length: 1825 Yesterday Tracy took pity on me and came down and did some troubleshooting. At first listen he said it sounded like I was only running on one rotor. We ruled that out by disconnecting power to rotor 1 coils, then rotor 2 coils. Engine didn't stop. Tracy said it sounded like timing was way late - not the sharp pop he'd expect from the rotary exhaust. (I would never have heard that). Rechecked CAS wiring - OK. Found and marked TDC on starter ring gear with white paint in between two teeth, and put on a timing light. Timing was off and random to the point he only got a glimpse of the mark once. He thought he heard it run right once at very low RPM when I pulled back on throttle to shut down. I removed the EC3 and he took it home. He confirmed that at very low idle RPMs it works right (timing is calculated differently there) but at higher RPMs coils never got the signal to fire! Only reason they fired at all is safety built into coils (and EC3) that fires themselves after max allowed dwell time. He gave me a couple of hardware changes to make: clamping circuit on CAS input and shorting a diode from A supply to the Vcc3 supply. Doubtful that they will handle my issue. So now it's up to me to debug the program. We verified the essential configuration bits. He lent me an Arduino based RX-8 CAS simulator (I'll post info on how to make your own later.) The lazy person's (me) way to find out what changed is to compare the source code from when it last worked (for a Renesis) and the current source code. If anyone has a copy of the EC3CL8.ASM file from several years ago, I would appreciate it. However, it's probably not a bad idea to have someone other than Tracy who's also familiar with the EC3 program. So I might as well dig in. I'll keep you briefed on what we find. Finn