X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=RZTu9Glv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9oI/EDCDJ+x2PJPfO1veJQ==:117 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=nTHF0DUjJn0A:10 a=nbwDJ09AQ6IA:10 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=vKIbezlLAAAA:20 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=C3maQ-SRcKvBvC6S3sYA:9 a=f7nIEYZJt64VpvdS:21 a=kgO_8Ld6sV118cLt:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=S0wkRrzPavQA:10 a=5YQ6H4ZxyGn-KoBYtt8s:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net" Received: from sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.184.148] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 323251 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 21:28:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.163.184.148; envelope-from=finn.lassen@verizon.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=verizon.net; s=a2048; t=1591061313; bh=CZdoDRtDkIwLyuNLW3H0Snzc5CG5MxKUfetnoSJgkNU=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=YqzdzN8vfGXbOT5DnGFu8lMi1Dce7gFKdPmL4yoZGolK2CD1ihVHLeHPwbSpyU51b3egSJ8Pg2AhF3bEZGxquUDY9rllnS8Llf+kBkrNr7UbtJC2B1H1Qkr1qWb63GPzIWpc/ogU9n1ldUehhu9IdNY0cvUoEShZdEDbrKkk45uv9gGTbjUtmnVWwtvF1cyWNvUtZYKRlWLJGuqjB2sJrV7fQ6Y69ZUF/TPgVPGpm8smGk+YE4yNkIdh8ix0kH3qprbkJMHs4pcR0poZBYgw6csDtl8HetniNwBEqriVzANmMrDVLuu9s7rHj4FkIcXPKVzlURVPhHXWI9lTsQD2xw== X-YMail-OSG: SYWXDlYVM1mEUM6Bm7PPXZHGsgM7XMX_Ij.DtBrOh.EUvlo5j.49qD24WHWQfna 33YdTd2N05Y00CLfW2zsAHYWPwjBFEbedP.tCTjwy0dQQ0mYwWdgsKoKLLS0bCWLGrVn3Kn0ZBh8 Z64PjzpPTw0csmg2ygc_qprgCRKBLUnLncVGvzNmj1yGv3.5aio6UFf3EJfP9oiTQIQ0PXBs_cjQ wwoPfdqiY6pzxd5_Uu4MjU_PkyRV5zSXCJRvhV_DHrSyaZt5FOyNavo7Q2XFIQ9GTrobQFMF3CZC vBRCjOSOM7uUqmvu.FZ_iaGH7s1SfQP5wDJPw8lZ651z1eEwvYhCXpf5SGnhGpvKB5O1njsqiIXO vFJCat9vPavm4B8M7MppQV_3.xgyBNjlghC._Bdr4J8j25iCCBwj9uR556tkJOG7vnhHqlk3.k7P BNU1sDDNV4pSd7C__Pwq9N8dE3zhEHbnf0YOOwQPI0X0hghAeVfJ6aNQB.RkAc6g_uAvFcqicWoK SeYsXbu8ggT0YkaSN.d5kVBo58nF_dUHciJAgpt1z5DDwUXkud4ytyYTBRQvUcCV6atGjGxIJ9Ze gJqDx5hGzjthhDn04MsCnigqQwmG5CeNKH5aN4beMOi0PwG0OKBk3pk_1_PmqgH46fTARiYN3WOX lUY02jOMqN9dZMo0FnUYxeRqA1kKt3v.SbulM4fBSNdEPQiowXfs9NpdMNjjZiPyvTRv.PUzctXb XCYh11HsRBeXd78AAVsNQfJcBYv5fWR6slQSgO5cdcilL9nAUq0gYGEQ2PcwELDtYHoGONtnhxdT R6SvkJ1sc7RvCl3fX8UIjXXGK0dN.ifLio_RkmJ6Lgt_5wSMJymuL39arPOJPO6UVqK53A57JP0p V.B6tT5wZf8al7LIeugh5eh0nkUo3a1XRxVfdKkFz2wsgyMv0SQL.rfdbwS9kyQD.IY1mXbkZ.j. 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To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <1e215d3a-61e0-0cd0-db2a-e8d750badd27@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 21:28:27 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16037 hermes_aol Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.6) Content-Length: 5434 Yes, after putting the EC3 into injector test mode and checking that each is clicking (screwdriver as stethoscope) and into ignition test mode and see that all four plugs are firing, that would be my next step. You say you've already checked that the wiring to coils and injectors are correct: J2-3 Prim Inj 1 J2-4 Sec Inj 1 ... J2-10 Trail Coil 1 ... I continuously surprised myself on how often I'd wired something wrong, in spite of trying to be very careful about getting it right. I wasn't kidding about Murphy working overtime. It's easy to get the pin numbering wrong on the connectors. If I were getting desperate, I would remove (one at a time) the connectors on the injectors and coils and check continuity from J2 pin to the connector pin. (You know that the power side are correct because works with EC2) Finn Got the copper washers in the mail today, but think I'll wait for these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293592023854 On 6/1/2020 7:30 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks Finn. > > I had a chance to unpack the dump last night and conquer with your reflection. > I’m in the dark re the EC3. Checked wiring twice now. > I must put a cro on the injectors and coils to confirm they are triggering correctly. > > Steve > >> On 1 Jun 2020, at 9:59 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote: >> >> Program Mode 5 (Reset function) >> >> As of 01-25-13 the EC3 can be used with either the common narrowband O2 sensors or the more advanced wideband sensor systems. Be sure to verify that your wideband sensor outputs in the range of 0 - +5 volts if using a wideband type. To select the type in use, use the power up program mode method below: >> >> To select the O2 sensor type , perform the following steps: >> >> 1. Turn the EC3 power off. >> 2. Select mode 5 with the Mode Select switch >> 3. Select the O2 sensor type using the Cold Start switch: Up = Wideband, Down = Narrowband >> 4. Press and hold the Program Store switch. >> 5. While holding down the Program Store switch, turn on the power switch to the EC3. >> 6. Keep holding the Program Store switch for about 1 second, and then release it. >> 7. Return the Mode Select switch to 0. >> 8. Power the EC3 off. When the EC3 is powered up again it will be set for the O2 sensor type selected. >> >> Uploaded doc to: >> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mVzPOxUwcGUlPizxnRF40nUyKBzfT4DC?usp=sharing >> >> PDF version still states that B is automatically programmed when A is programmed. Not true. Use the Word doc. >> >> Finn >> >> >> On 6/1/2020 9:16 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >>> Hi Finn >>> >>> How does the mode 5 O2 sensor change work. >>> Ive not found this in the EC3 documentation. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>>> On 31 May 2020, at 4:08 am, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Finn >>>> >>>> Thats good news. >>>> At some point I’ll plug the EC3 in and see what the EM3 reports. >>>> >>>> We’re finally back in the air and testing again after the last 3 months of responding to COVID here in Perth. >>>> >>>> Last mods included some reshaping of inlets and diffusers and tidying up the inlet manifold (grinding smooth some weld that had penetrated into the runners). >>>> >>>> Yesterday our Renesis 4 port max fuel flow is up 10% to I think a reasonably accurate 18 gal/hr at 7100rpm, 29.5 inch of MAP and mixture at best power. >>>> We burn our Australian Premium Unleaded with no Ethanol which I believe is 6.26 lb/gal so I’m thinking thats around 190hp. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 31 May 2020, at 12:58 am, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Wrong engine code solved! >>>>> >>>>> I looked at the dates of files in the EC3CL folder. These files were not updated to the date I programmed the EC3: >>>>> ECCL8.cof >>>>> ECCL8.map >>>>> ECCL8.O >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So I started from scratch: >>>>> >>>>> Unzipped the EC3CL folder. >>>>> >>>>> Set ENG = A8; LS2COIL, LGSEC and WIDEBAND to 1 and rest to 0. >>>>> >>>>> Did "Erase", "Clean" and "Build All" and "Program" in MPLAB and reinstalled chip for controller A. >>>>> >>>>> Now EM3 correctly shows "A8" for engine code. >>>>> >>>>> Changed to narrow band using mode 5, and EM3 display correctly changed from 16 to 12 for ENGINFO. >>>>> >>>>> I must have chosen the "Make" option in MPLAB when I first programmed the chips, I guess. >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately I must have damaged the controller B CPU chip when handling it (MPLAB reports device ID = 0) and will have to order a new one. >>>>> >>>>> Finn >>>>> >>>>> Still waiting for the $1.79 shipped copper washers to arrive in mail. Maybe I should bite the bullet and order five (six) Stat-O-Seal washer/O-rings at $8.56 per pack of two. $25.68 total :( >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >