X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=RZTu9Glv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=W7cIJ4TcGjmvrM3Ieh7ZMQ==:117 a=nTHF0DUjJn0A:10 a=hrdC1p5twJAA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=XK96pDEFhVME5jWZ_VAA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=4PR2P7QzAAAA:8 a=S64jbCJZXTh2IfwyAiUA:9 a=VXw_UhQ0Vwvdckux:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=5YQ6H4ZxyGn-KoBYtt8s:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=4dqwQCo7Po2mVW515mGf:22 From: "Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net" Received: from sonic302-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.186.147] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 320213 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 09:23:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.163.186.147; envelope-from=finn.lassen@verizon.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=verizon.net; s=a2048; t=1591017805; bh=E9LNnR+bL8vTeDxg/egj16botgYsMKXQ7XZptwhZcog=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=epel1fALF1JNKvmv+7R2rjG6K8tG01deUFyMRO5Q5WftIwipyp7UEkKlo1tctw9zuGkpw5OkbR0AHCw0xJIxv09/+MunJik6kkCFL7IlzJ1YBjFs1+kqOfF3ScXgkGgkjqvpIKLWL9dCZO5NgJ4WL8zTGjBbN26zGOUTcjVO0SGEoUwSGaOttsYd+osm0F//7ANdOaxtPIQWAlIYbYQhPHRqLXVyNvNCPse3/0NyIqpccWrZXaq0ZjKceVHw6vg4dRlh2SF5uF4XQlvi5wjzNzrkklXs77MJV7V9WjWTAaRtB72n3UdLCGOoNXydHvqN8n5RrFD9yydq7v/93EUA+Q== X-YMail-OSG: 2SjO07AVM1ntUhuajlUFu3ipTPPnhndqH.w0OWLGvcYIhgQiJDhpY_3IbCtn_Ea Az2NGtL7qF.Zvt3U3yv7ztwpBe4sTRhQTqUex6JpMsRHuLS6k_GOtOTFG9Z5kmAAS4p2xT.WtuFB 8LyaW_GJHCb4IKC1Q0aWMVVQSqPYzR_5xID24KGCDJXYZM156AeWUyiP0FWG255tcPjyp3dr1_BC L_DEnVbUa2C5q3Pw6Rlv9VKeNi0IGXBw8hgBuVeJVX1g3Cd8z8m7iEZDywSZO2qDxsfv3D._6eI4 jt.cl7F35RypZDbUeCUSz5LaCiMGPoFZ0SK6KkU28LhZUV_E20xBQBAIdcy2p7gtA1EBFWdxpqmm EooN.u2vIhHHIx444nd.5pAX.la1ozOPWvluly79VD5.i_5W7qMzJAJSU9jOkUU0zuLa5RuBiu1P Rh1ZNnUuGgWhOkcxBjhsJXUzdac9d85fdX2J6O0ch7p6VD2d7QK.jhTtjWXsaU0KZs3vztYb5qoa Vt.r07qeIt_DEG4ASG5qzEBtp5jQxBMQsiV28cNHz85iiweFxuwxYRVkESxunDR28H_KBxjEU25k vR3jgySRW16f2y4nNR5KuxxCjM1iMmGLhmxaPPzaLj5WRJPrkD6.XDfwuzmzdmFciG0_g42oIYql ce3ongBWK9XqHF2emadjHvi3n14hV0ZbeiJZvV8aTV0zO6Azn00Gtb7F8ls4Ve04tY6y0vSeLwNa ZBBjtO46SwCIrW_vxksrfbprCYmydH49I1xSQUNMHOkSHS.MKV9XonAp8UVBNTtF1vun7FMTdnRX jL6jXM.b8AZp7Pitix8NDdiNkEyYTonDkgGQZki1YYH.4_kQcR8FxFQAUT2ilBJLdSbkDcc5qulr MGnanMemnXgq3bDQgdMKjZmks_Y90JjYNBQjhL2.9jeG9YaP0m16c.8V6_s8MGz.vYNycf_TtS2h GwLjgbcTBXDA0rjMzc6PnfqeBFqXwiapfTW0Qy6NAA1aSO7HgR9TP0iepexbQBnD34keS9LvhIRd nY_Ls8pblKIiS8KyFr.x_ilOwQr8IGHwVbI2_zTr3ra6T4xKyVUriXSGiN1F2YaN1VMk.rrK9tBx BovTtn7jI2qpzL_j6yeJ8dCcWwdBnwXL.0_amPu2CyqhaWyhrpKoBSaB9qdpwxGSpLJypo_Nwvvu zR4HWCsoTxzuM2RfVqhtDgt6WB6BrK_OTWtXGRiOMuVvad52uPBoQg7LE7rCKz3QDrLVtmyag97Q MBKepW3UOfxKMU5pzWF9RaXe.eA9RwtkWLkVMULQOfpTFaw4B06YtZ9HdUJmD0FdP2DAPLcb_iTq gY46FaGNHtADx8mct5ZSoDAvesf32ng4AWM8eZSa.z4zwgyEBTxJnXcGj7r98xENYaa2hO5Sf.Id _8fE25Q3cndvtX00s7wDV63UKaln2t8kuun7uZw-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic302.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 13:23:25 +0000 Received: by smtp421.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 14e547aec7430688968ec57b4aac54e9; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 13:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3/EM3 data point To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 09:23:18 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D36ACBD3B02DA7CBB066EAE4" Content-Language: en-US X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16037 hermes_aol Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.6) Content-Length: 4895 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D36ACBD3B02DA7CBB066EAE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Not familiar with the EC2, but check temperature probe wiring. Not that important because not used by controller B. Your A8 engine code is correct for a Renesis and looks like it's programmed for rotary, large secondary injectors and narrowband O2 sensor. (12 in second position, row 4, should change to 92 with cold start switch on.) Changing the mode switch from zero should change second to last position in row 3.. Second position row 4 (ENGINFO) MSB to LSB: ColdSwitchOn | Cont | BackupSensor | RotaryEngine | TempSensor | O2SensorType | LargeSecondaryInjectors | Turbo Changing to wideband O2 sensor will add 4, changing your 12 to 16. Turning cold switch on will add 80 (hex). So looks like engine type was just my problem. Of course we still don't know how my engine will run. Do you have the stock Renesis Crank Angle Sensor pickup? Finn On 6/1/2020 7:32 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: > And here is the data dump from the EC3. > > Steve >> On 30 May 2020, at 9:43 am, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net >> > > wrote: >> >> Data point from Tracy: Even though the manual states: "The EC3�sends >> engine information over a serial link to the EM2 engine�monitor (if >> used)�including engine speed�and many other�parameters.", he early on >> abandoned using that. Too much jitter on�the�signal from the early >> 13B due to gear lash in the mechanical�CAS. And from there on he just >> kept using the injector 1 pulse for�RPM (and fuel flow). >> >> So EM2/EM3 always requires some tach input. >> >> Finn >> > --------------D36ACBD3B02DA7CBB066EAE4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Not familiar with the EC2, but check temperature probe wiring. Not that important because not used by controller B.

Your A8 engine code is correct for a Renesis and looks like it's programmed for rotary, large secondary injectors and narrowband O2 sensor. (12 in second position, row 4, should change to 92 with cold start switch on.)

Changing the mode switch from zero should change second to last position in row 3..

Second position row 4 (ENGINFO) MSB to LSB:
ColdSwitchOn | Cont | BackupSensor | RotaryEngine | TempSensor | O2SensorType | LargeSecondaryInjectors | Turbo

Changing to wideband O2 sensor will add 4, changing your 12 to 16. Turning cold switch on will add 80 (hex).

So looks like engine type was just my problem. Of course we still don't know how my engine will run.

Do you have the stock Renesis Crank Angle Sensor pickup?

Finn

On 6/1/2020 7:32 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote:
And here is the data dump from the EC3.

Steve
On 30 May 2020, at 9:43 am, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Data point from Tracy: Even though the manual states: "The EC3�sends engine information over a serial link to the EM2 engine�monitor (if used)�including engine speed�and many other�parameters.", he early on abandoned using that. Too much jitter on�the�signal from the early 13B due to gear lash in the mechanical�CAS. And from there on he just kept using the injector 1 pulse for�RPM (and fuel flow).

So EM2/EM3 always requires some tach input.

Finn



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