Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #65716
From: Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 sensor location
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 19:37:28 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Cool.

So there are several solutions if it turns out temp is too high at current location.

Also, I could move the bung further down, if I end up extending the exhaust pipe down under the fuselage.

But the first O2 sensor in the stock manifold is pretty close to the port, so why is that not a problem in the RX-8?

Even though I intend to use the analog output from the ALM board, it looks I may be able to hook up a laptop and read the temperature as well.

Finn


On 5/18/2020 5:06 PM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry; I should have included a message with that link. I suspect that with a little digging, a model could be located that would allow modification to emulate what Steve's device does. Of course, if someone (Tracy) has a metal lathe...

Charlie

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On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:05 PM Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

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On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 1:43 PM Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Thanks Steve.

Hadn't seen that before.

Work of art!

But, dang, $89 (or $58  on eBay). Could buy a couple new O2 sensors at that price.

Finn


On 5/18/2020 12:31 PM, Steven W. Boese SBoese@uwyo.edu wrote:
Finn,

FWIW, I've used the bung extender shown in the photos on my test stand without ill effects other than initial cost.

Steve Boese


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So I bought the Bosch LSU 4.9 wideband oxygen sensor and ALM-board.

Specs for the LSU 4.9 says max operating temperature is 930 °C (1700°F).

I recall seeing 1950F EGT temps on my 13B with EGT probes 8" from the
side of the engine.

On the RV-4 Renesis,  before buying the wideband sensor, I welded the
bung 12" from the closest port. (Stock manifold cut and 180° turn at
exhaust port nearest flywheel, 2.5" pipe.)

I expect the Renesis to have slightly lower EGT temps, but am worrying
about damaging the O2 sensor.

Charlie suggests mounting the sensor on a longer bung, moving the sensor
out of the direct gas stream, but I feel that may reduce the accuracy of it.

My plan was to use the cheap narrowband O2 sensor initially and find the
engine settings giving highest EGTs, then temporarily mount an EGT probe
in the O2 bung hole, run the engine at those settings and see if EGT
there was safe for the wideband sensor.

But maybe I'm worrying about nothing.

Do any of you have data on how rapidly the temps drop as a function of
distance from exhaust port?

Finn



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