X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=LuPsNUVc c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=uLU+DCFtoHl3Lq3r+oT8QQ==:117 a=sTwFKg_x9MkA:10 a=aOWVIxkx-zkA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=eRLigfuSAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=xUuDlL6Y9ndtlEI32yEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=hqY4JIkzzAlw71TyOvwA:9 a=H7mmGAUrTYTG7-Ia:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=BfhXYjFvZD4iae-mNffo:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au" Received: from mail-wm1-f44.google.com ([209.85.128.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 244393 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 16 May 2020 00:50:51 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.128.44; envelope-from=andrew@martinag.com.au Received: by mail-wm1-f44.google.com with SMTP id k12so4155925wmj.3 for ; Fri, 15 May 2020 21:50:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=martinag-com-au.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=AD1lRqIKvV/BxUJpLu5zhTlhFCPnq+ItJL+I5GEua5s=; b=RZNAOYxz2mwaIsg5glhWhOtazSh3+ljYmkQz2e3I9wxlox84qFnOrxTjwgkBgnqpuZ /kboZa6YNJmGZj8zwMilwQdbdPePvxHhY0Uv2sx24hpxw5a/bcK+67XDBeIZmMl+wf3J 1wRM0KD0xNtw+yAKPKPT2CqfzyIPBbYVGEZITYf3l1pKTDbyx11QgA9CnFacFNvkFZfZ 3WDpHILa99u6DEuPSGtVu3jVu+LYktz1ayKCFDDVakVA7hMB8cjEIfp3Yull9oK5fZTB TZoJOp7KvlJO6tdH1Acum+uECuFaoIzotPqkWbqrr8q/PEaT6Cp6lfpvlj/Ucrf0Joo/ BniQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=AD1lRqIKvV/BxUJpLu5zhTlhFCPnq+ItJL+I5GEua5s=; b=On7ZjDPN1aoWSQex/b/KSaDBwBD5IDiAI3LjSVhrOYcBMecYh21BQCApRJQS9fANx7 ZWaTH8IJySRMHd65BWTf6v7uL7G22QiTdfnsFfu5bO4riKMuo8FtVC8FlGIYgvhykmLM QQ6jr4yXdGB8jrolA2ts7twrW/yy2wvqHQF8KRUimXg9y9U3zCMb4AUkJpG6QDP5LGdl 75uRqumKK1EEE4dHk/4hpQmaoFDn40+sv/dOz8iahRs60n6NRY6jPK74jxTni7KEVaHh kVF+SLnqM44lU8z9n/s8WZrdgTq82RxjseS5kiNz+JqwXwq/NSZ2ct3Q0L44iRNWAgh/ aG3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530/zdrc6u3BphDCLeLcDjaw3wY4LTveN7/dgQuJWSi2lQFn/L17 i8D3+MQThXDFVPYVspl5zB7OUWT20i+RlOG3k8btweI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxoKgdW7J76rx5P6t60LvXDwD6lidN1JPupXDCh7OdOmrP2q2hExbjNlgxoRpMknZYi+6okUC2Y0LU8YR0uqjI= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:3c42:: with SMTP id j63mr7816543wma.118.1589604634592; Fri, 15 May 2020 21:50:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 12:50:10 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Water Pump To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000941dc905a5bcab8c" --000000000000941dc905a5bcab8c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve. I used Re-medy pump as my motor came to me minus a pump so had to find alternative and that was the only aftermarket one available. At that stage Todd was still building so I was going to wait on his results re elect pump, but then Re-medy has worked well without issue. It has to be part of whole package so is difficult for us as each has slight differences in installations. Mine has no restrictors other than pipe friction & radiator. Both these are minimal as pipes are all 25mm internal and a large radiator. My theory is to allow coolant to flow as fast as possible all the time. Cavitation happens when the pump impeller slips in the coolant. ie: when impellor is spinning too fast for what can flow through all restrictions. Or when pump is accelerating the mass of coolant like in a car when changing gear/ revs frequently. In aircraft operation, once the coolant flow is up to speed, the pump will only require enough power to overcome friction & restrictions within system= . Basically if you want a restrictor/thermostat, slow your pump down also to protect the pump or minimize other restrictions like small hoses & radiators. or design the system to allow full flow with little pressure difference in inlet & outlet of the pump. Andrew On Sat, 16 May 2020, 7:15 am Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com, < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Thanks Guys for the feedback re pumps. > Andrew, what information did you get that caused you to change to the > Re-medy pump? > Was it from a reputable source, like racers? I=E2=80=99ve put it in the d= iary to > call GoGear when I=E2=80=99m back in Perth early next week. > I have little trust in advertising these days and if I=E2=80=99m going t= o go to > the trouble and expense I=E2=80=99d like some science behind it. > > Cheers > > Steve > > > > On 15 May 2020, at 11:17 pm, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > > > I=E2=80=99ve had Mazmart Re-medy pump in since start. Seems thats been = one > component I=E2=80=99ve not had to worry about. > > Andrew > > > > -- > > Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --000000000000941dc905a5bcab8c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve. I used Re-medy pump as my motor = came to me minus a pump so had to find alternative and that was the only af= termarket one available. At that stage Todd was still building so I was goi= ng to wait on his results re elect pump, but then Re-medy has worked well w= ithout issue.
It has to be part of whole package so is dif= ficult for us as each has slight differences in installations. Mine has no = restrictors other than pipe friction & radiator. Both these are minimal= as pipes are all 25mm internal and a large radiator. My theory is to allow= coolant to flow as fast=C2=A0as possible all the time. Cavitation happens = when the pump impeller slips in the coolant. ie: when impellor is spinning = too fast for what can flow through all restrictions. Or when pump is accele= rating the mass of coolant like in a car when changing gear/ revs frequentl= y.
In aircraft operation, once the coolant flow is u= p to speed, the pump will only require enough power to overcome friction &a= mp; restrictions within system.
Basically if you wan= t a restrictor/thermostat, slow your pump down also to protect the pump or = minimize other restrictions like small hoses & radiators. or design the= system to allow full flow with little pressure difference in inlet & o= utlet of the pump.
Andrew

On Sat, 16 May= 2020, 7:15 am Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com, <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Thanks Guys for the feedback re pumps.
Andrew, what information did you get that caused you to change to the Re-me= dy pump?
Was it from a reputable source, like racers? I=E2=80=99ve put it in the dia= ry to call GoGear when I=E2=80=99m back in Perth early next week.
=C2=A0I have little trust in advertising these days and if I=E2=80=99m goin= g to go to the trouble and expense I=E2=80=99d like some science behind it.=

Cheers

Steve


> On 15 May 2020, at 11:17 pm, Andrew Martin andrew@marti= nag.com.au <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> = wrote:
>
> I=E2=80=99ve had Mazmart Re-medy pump in since start. Seems thats been= one component I=E2=80=99ve not had to worry about.
> Andrew
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> Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag


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