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[203.59.74.185]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 78sm3592238pgd.33.2020.05.10.22.01.02 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 May 2020 22:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Engine Noise Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:01:00 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <0A3F44D4-1368-4FF4-88B3-CFC0FCC9EB5A@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Thanks Andrew. Yes please, the relevant pages re shape of inlets. Do we know is this is = still the current science? Steve > On 11 May 2020, at 10:42 am, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au = wrote: >=20 > Aerodynamics of Propulsion > Dietrich Kuchemann > Johanna Weber > 1st Edition 1953. >=20 > I got a copy at reasonable price, it is a photocopy of an original, = but cannot for the life of me find the bookstore I purchased from. but = vague memory makes me think it was a online specialty technical = bookstore that only sells photocopies from their library copies.( I = know, lots a help!)=F0=9F=98=80 > Well worth the read if you can find it. > I could possibly scan a few relevant chapters if needed. >=20 > Regards > Andrew Martin >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 6:14 AM Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: > Hi Finn > Yes, I=E2=80=99d like the science on inlet lips. > Just reworked our oil inlet and all I have is this drawing. >=20 > Steve > >=20 >> On 9 May 2020, at 10:15 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = wrote: >>=20 >> Opposite of what I understand: >> You want a large external radius and a smaller inside radius. >>=20 >> I've in vain been searching for the NACA paper that Tracy Crook get = the exact number (internal/external) from. Probably somewhere between = 0.5 and 0.8. >>=20 >> Finn >>=20 >> On 5/8/2020 11:02 PM, Terry Adams terrywadams@sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> You may want to test the lip/airflow on the scoop to your = cooling.=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD Adding a generous radius to the inside may = add considerable airflow.=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD Consult the work and = directions given by Peter Garrison and his plane Melmoth = (www.melmoth2.com).=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD jm2c fwiw >>>=20 >>> Terry >>>=20 >>> On 5/8/2020 3:34 PM, 12348ung@gmail.com wrote: >>>> Le Roux, >>>> You have done a great job so I hesitate to add = photos of >>>> my work, but here goes Neil. >>>>=20 >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 10:31 PM >>>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 >>>> >>>>=20 >>>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Engine Noise >>>>=20 >>>> Hello Le Roux: >>>> This Frontal photo tells you quite a bit about my cowlings and my = airplane. >>>> The top two inlets are for my oil coolers (2 x Fluidyne DB-30416) = and the >>>> bottom inlet is for my radiator (Griffin 2-58185-X). >>>> With a "Chubby Cubby" drag is given, things like Aero-Turbine = mufflers and >>>> long exhaust pipes (to get noise behind cabin) are not too = significant.=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Jeff: Thanks for taking us aboard the flight over the Ottawa River! >>>>=20 >>>> I am a relative new member on the group, and are not on terms, with = the FWF >>>> installations of the members. >>>>=20 >>>> Is it possible to post some info of your 13B installation and = cowling? >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks Le Roux Breytenbach >>>>=20 >>>> South Africa >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: =20 >>>> http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>=20 >>>> Archive and UnSub: =20 >>>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Communication ink and paper free >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20